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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

They can stay in their town if they don’t like it

Literally no. By definition small towns don't have a lot of things in them, and so the things they do have tend to be pretty basic. If you need specialist medicine, for example, you definitely will have to go to a major city. And that's not even getting into the open countryside people, who exist in at least the less dense European countries.

I mean, you can still hold the position they shouldn't get a say, but not that they can totally opt out of whatever is decided.

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

If they don't want to live where there is nothing then they shouldn't have chosen to live where there is nothing

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Wait? Do you ever eat food? I'm guessing you do. That comes from the middle of nowhere for the most part. Certain other products too.

If you open a history book, it's cities that are optional. Yes, people who choose to be farmers or otherwise live outside of cities have to deal with long commutes to a city when they need something. If they were banned from even doing that, there'd just be starvation.

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It's not the farmers that clog up cities' streets

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Hmm. What point are you making? Should they stay out of towns or not?

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 1 points 37 minutes ago

Who is they? Farmers? It doesn't matter. In developed nations less than 1% of the population are farmers. And those few don't drive into the cities every day for work, because why would they.

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Well, if they want to come to the city they should leave their car outside and take public transit or a bike.

If that's a viable option, definitely, but it isn't always and I can tell you public transport in Ireland is incomplete at best.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 days ago

Okay, sure. But they will have to do it, and you will need some parking on the outskirts.