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The article doesn't say if it's targeting recent Tesla buyers or all owners.
Most current Tesla owners are not MAGAs and bought when they were marketed as a green vehicle.
Musk has been acting nazi for quite some time.
I think most people weren't fully aware until recently. You had to be active online or actually look for information to see it was more than just rich billionaire syndrome. We all live in bubbles and some people didn't get to hear about all the details with the 2019 pedo submarine incident Nowadays it would be very difficult to argue you didn't know but bought a Tesla because it's in your face.
For context, the model S was first sold in 2012, the model x in 2015, model 3 in 2017 and Y in 2020.
So the model 3 was released when he was a Trump advisor, and the Y when he openly started spreading conspiracy theories non stop.
As for the "we didn't know" excuse it's as bullshit now has it was in 1945.
Yes let's compare owning a cirtain car to holocaust denial.
The holocaust didn't start with gas chambers, it started more than 10 years before with people ignoring evil because it was convenient for them.
For context, the comment the one above replied to originally said "gassing Jews" instead of "holocaust denial"
Yes it did. I changed that to be somewhat less insensitive.
my guy is up and down this thread trying to move goalposts talking about what about amazon and gassing the jews. trying to whatabout anything he can to defend Tesla. "Porsche exists!" yea is the porsche ceo hitting the "roman" salute and I missed it? what a clown
I'm not defending Tesla anywhere, you can cite me where you think I did. Volkswagen and Porsche have well documented actual Nazi history and is therefor precisely relevant here, especially in the context of where I named them. And you need learn to construct a coherent sentence, because I had to read this word chaos no less than three times to make sense of it.
people buying the cybertruck are fully aware of Elons behaviour, they buy it to stroke thier own egos. ive seen an increase in newer regular teslas being driven around, i think some people are ignorant to his politics.
Yup. People are acting like this is something that just happened in January.
My first educational experience regarding how fucked Musk is was when he randomly called a Thai rescue worker a pedophile in 2018. And it was relatively high profile news. I saw a post on Reddit about a year ago asking when Elon went crazy and most comments agreed the first highly public instance was the Thai cave event.
So I've spent the last 7 years seeing more and more Teslas on the road knowing this guy was a grade-A fucking asshole that these drivers were enriching. And people are acting like his assholery is some new thing.
My car was made in the 90s.
Not as openly. Yoy would have really looked into his background to know what kind of person he was and even then he had not gone full nazi.
All owners that they can find in various leaks/databases when I checked last week.
And musk has been a known evil dipshit since at least 2018 when he threw a hissy fit because the divers who rescued those kids didn't use musk branded products. He accused one of the divers of being a pedophile and actively devoted resources to "proving" this.
Let alone the countless stories of musk being a sex pest (remember having to buy a woman a pony because of whatever he did to her?)
So, at best, people can argue "I didn't care enough to do any research on what I bought and accidentally enabled a nazi.". At which point... I really don't give a fuck? Its the same as the people who couldn't be bothered to do any research and were surprised to hear that biden apparently wasn't on the ballot.
Their apathy is causing untold horror to at risk groups and the global economy. So they can go fuck themselves.
And, totally anecdotal: I have seen fucked up teslas in parking lots next to un-fucked ones that just had a "I bought this before he went insane" or "I hate him too" bumper sticker.
I can honestly say I don't research the political affiliations and actions of every CEO of every product I purchase.
You can't argue with these people, anyone who owns a tesla deserves to have it destroyed in their minds.
I detect nothing wrong with that.
Well, good time to start
Okay? Then don't expect me or anyone else to research the political affiliation of the owner of the tesla we see on the street to decide if they are a hateful pro-nazi prick or not?
Germans in 1945: Sorry I am not political.
Russians 2022: Not political.
USA 2025: I did not know, it was only in the media for years everywhere.
Actual 90% of Americans: I'm busy trying to survive daily life working essentially paycheck to paycheck, maybe working two or three jobs and a side gig to make ends meet, commuting over an hour each way to work, being overly stressed from work, having to pay for some of the most expensive healthcare on the planet even with work provided insurance, and never able to afford to take a real vacation or even time to sit back and look at anything not directly part of my daily struggles to survive in current society. When I do look around, half of politics is telling me I'm lazy and the other half is talking about things that don't affect my daily struggles.
Meanwhile both of the groups say the other is lying all the time and I don't have the time or energy to look into it before I have to get to bed so I can get up and do it all over again tomorrow. And in the morning, my car breaks down again, and repairing it wipes out the little savings I did manage to have for a while. Now I'm worried that I might be fired because I am late to work again because of car trouble and lack of good public transit options.
Our society has been manufactured over the last 100 years to get people to the point we don't have the free time or enough money to effectively see what's happening and fight back without having to completely destroy our lives in the process.
If you put yourself above others, which almost everyone does, then yes, that is the logical conclusion. There is nothing you can do, as everything you do might make it worse for you. So regardless of how obviously better in the grand scheme of things, people do not do it. That is how almost every human "is programmed" and I do not know if we will every get beyond this primitive thinking.
those 90% of Americans don't own an expensive Tesla
You do realize that the Model 3 has been available brand new for like $37k for 4 years now, and used ones obviously cheaper than that. That's not exactly cheap, but it's where the vast majority of EV prices are targeted, not the high end anymore.
Tesla is no longer an exclusively $80k+ luxury brand despite what so many people online seem to think still. The vast majority of Tesla vehicles ever made aren't the Model S or X, they are the Model 3 and Y in just the last few years. Hell, half of Toyota's current vehicle lineup is $40k or more.
If you're working paycheck to paycheck and bought a $37k vehicle you need to rethink your financial decisions
but still kept contempt enough to not make huge riots, and uprisings like with other countries, its just enough for you to not fight the "aristocrats", of course decades of propaganda helps, because without "being content gets you so far"
That's handled largely by the lack of ability to take time off. And then there's wage stagnation. It not only means increased company profits, but on the national scale it helps ensure any people do not make enough money to build up any savings.
They've created a very effective system where most don't have the paid time off from work, can't afford to call in, and also don't have the savings to afford the time to find a new job.
the hyperloop scam which he cause cali to be unable to build the fast rail, because it allowed enough time for trumps, Elaine chao to block any kind of funding.
Elon was a dipshit in 2018 yes... So are 90% of CEOs, and 100% of modern "Republicans". Most just aren't as publicly vocal because they don't make themselves the face of their brands. The Republican party hasn't actually supported their stated viewpoints in decades, and few members of the general public have noticed. They just take what they're told and allowed the shift.
Being a dipshit is different from actively supporting a fascist takeover of the government. Regardless of what you might want to claim, there is a shift there. You're an idiot if you can't see the public shift in the last few years. He may always have been this way,but he wasn't as vocally and publicly supportive of it. It used to just be shit takes on events for publicity, not the active lead of the country's destruction.
Do you buy Nestle products? Do you buy anything from Amazon? Do you drive an ICE car and purchase gas for it?
If you do any of these things you're an evil piece of shit Nazi and deserve to have your possessions burned to nothing (per your logic)
They should prove it and spraypaint their cars with anti-Elon shit.
Cool story bro.
They can sell. They can trade. If they want to continue to own a Nazi car, they should be prepared for the consequences.
Sell it to whom, Ben?
Fucking aquaman?
Google says you can sell it to a dealer or a used car service like carmax.
Is that going to be a bit of a hassle? Yeah. You know what else is going to be a bit of a hassle? Needing to pretend you aren't the gender you are because the government has painted a target on your head for choosing happiness. Or hoping nobody decides to take away the green card you worked your ass off to earn.
And is the value going to be dropping? Yeah. So get on that. Plenty of us are getting on finding ways to emigrate to countries that are less horrifically fucked and speedrunning their way to gilead and we know those slots are gonna dry up. And we are the privileged ones who even have a chance at doing this.
So "it is hard and I might lose a bit of money and it isn't my fault I couldn't be bothered to care until now" is a load of horse shit. And people wonder why I, and so many others, just laugh-cry whenever people talk about how this upcoming thing is totally going to flip the switch and get America to riot in the streets.
If you care about being consistent, you should probably smash your computer right now since you used Google, and Google CEOs are on the Trump train too.
All major companies have blood on their hands. There is no ethical consumption under capitalism.
To my knowledge, only one company's CEO is publicly heiling hitler and actively destroying a government and killing children by defunding aid programs in a manner that violates the constituion.
And, personally? I do make it a point to avoid giving money to the REALLY bad companies. In a lot of cases that is just not possible because of the late stage capitalism hellscape we live in. But when I have the choice between some Popeyes and some chikfila? One of those companies openly funds MUCH worse things than the other and walking a block farther is, quite frankly, the least I can do.
But, instead, we need to celebrate people supporting evil through apathy and then actively defend them when protests are happening? Y'all were the ones who were talking about how kyle rittenhouse is a bad person but he had a point about being worried about the guy who owned the Target on 5th street, huh?
Because what does this say to our LGBTQ+ friends (assuming everyone involved has some...) or the people being illegally deported and sent to internment camps when the biggest pushback is "Whoa. Your protesting might inconvenience me and is thus bad"?
If you can't see the difference between protesting in a way that actually hinders fascists, vs making a hitlist of people who fell for positive marketing, then I just can't help you.
You should go outside and touch some grass friend
Their comment, unfortunately, seems grounded in reality.
If that is what you think then perhaps you need to go touch some grass as well
Get a better comeback.
It's not an insult, it just means you need to go get some fresh air and perspective
It's a conversation terminus used by people who refuse to accept that they might be wrong about something.
If you think people deserve to have their personal property destroyed because of the viewpoints of an out of touch egotistical billionare then you truly need to touch some grass and reflect. It's a pretty simple message I think.
Is there a Tesla dealership on top of that grass?