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Shame on you, Homebrew, for effectively killing FOSS apps from casks.

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[–] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Their explanation as to why:

--no-quarantine is used to forcibly bypass Gatekeeper, which is a built-in macOS security mechanism. This is used to run unsigned/unnotarized applications.

macOS Tahoe is the final release to support Intel systems, and last year Apple updated macOS runtime protection to make it harder to override Gatekeeper. Macs with Apple silicon also don't "permit native arm64 code to execute unless a valid signature is attached". Finally, we are ending support for all casks that fail Gatekeeper checks on September 1st, 2026.

With the above in mind, it's time to deprecate the --no-quarantine flag from brew. It intentionally bypasses macOS security mechanisms, which we already actively discourage. Deprecating now will give a decent lead time for users using it to come up with another solution or adjust their workflows.

[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Deprecating now will give a decent lead time for users using it to come up with another solution or adjust their workflows.

The adjusted solution/workflow: use something other than homebrew

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How will these other solutions bypass Apples quarantine?

[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

By doing what homebrew currently does when you pass the --no-quarantine flag, which is call xattr.

Note that I'd probably support removing --no-quarantine if Apple's notarization service was free.

[–] monogram@feddit.nl 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Notarisation, free (as in beer) limits your ability to run your code that (Corporate) doesn’t like, making it inherently non free (as in freedom).

[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yes, but you can still compile the code yourself. It's only problematic for binary distribution. This is basically a question of balancing security vs. freedom I suppose.

[–] monogram@feddit.nl 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Talking about balance when google is using the same tricks to crush f-droid is not reading the room.

[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 days ago

Difference is compiling an app from source for Android is not really feasible on Android devices, whereas doing so on macOS is literally built into the package managers for macOS and is generally pretty trivial beyond it taking more time.

Also, macOS doesn't prevent you from running the apps entirely.

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean, theres macports and what else? Is macports even kickin still? No other package managers other than homebrew

[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago

Pretty sure it's still around. Nix is an option as well.