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[–] foodandart@lemmy.zip 154 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (26 children)

My Alex Jones listening co-worker claimed I had TDS. He was all big on Trump as the Epstein Files were gonna be released, the economy was going to have all the factories returned to America,food would be cheaper..

I just bit my tongue and said nothing.

Now, with his wife's medical needs so severe that he's got almost nothing left at the end of each month, he says to me "How come we can't get an affordable medical system that covers everyone completely.." to which I said, "Well, we could have that and be like every other civilized nation on Earth, but that's 'socialism' after all and we can't have that.. I mean isn't that what your right wing radio says?"

He's gotten awfully silent about lots of that stuff now and I mentioned Epstein files being not released and he lost his shit over it. I told him that there was no more "deep state" it was the State now, and is right there in Washington DC and in your face. He is no longer disagreeing with that assessment.

I think that the reality of the situation is breaking through the Trump Delusion Syndrome a lot of these die-hards had and they are starting to see what really is going on and they're pissed and silently fuming about it now.

My co-worker took the vinyl "1776" stickers with the tattered flag backgrounds off of his truck and lost all his Trump swag as well.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think that the reality of the situation is breaking through the Trump Delusion Syndrome a lot of these die-hards had and they are starting to see what really is going on and they're pissed and silently fuming about it now.

The fundamental problem with this logic is that anyone dumb enough to have fallen for this in the first place (and to vote for Trump again in 2024) is more than dumb enough to fall victim to all the nonsense of the next election. There's no way this momentary glimmer of rationality will survive an election campaign, and the utterly broken epistemology of these people is no closer to being fixed.

[–] yistdaj@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If it's anything like religious "Great Awakenings" that the US seems to go through every now and again (which I think it is), I think you'll find the movement much smaller than it first was as people on the fringes peel away quietly with each disappointment. They didn't lose anybody for years because they didn't really get to be disappointed, but now they have their promised messiah back in power they're struggling to make sense of it all. The core might double down after each disappointment until the leader dies, but each time they have to add a new layer of complexity to what they believe, and each time they will lose a few people, particularly people that find the least community and identity through the movement. People that won't lose as much if they leave.

Where at the peak of some "Great Awakenings" the majority of people are part of the movement, by the end it's sometimes just a small community of a few thousand members. There is never a single event that causes most people to leave, it's gradual.

Edit: I'd also like to note that they didn't have much opportunity to be disappointed in his first term (most of the terrible things he did didn't really disappoint his followers) until the end when people were dying and inflation was rising, but their messiah was out of power before they saw the full effect of it, and so they got to blame somebody else for inflation and Covid deaths and so on (if they even believed Covid existed).

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