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After New York City’s race for mayor catapulted Zohran Mamdani from state assembly member into one of the world’s most prominent progressive voices, intense debate swirled over the ideas at the heart of his campaign.

His critics and opponents painted pledges such as free bus service, universal child care and rent freezes as unworkable, unrealistic and exorbitantly expensive.

But some have hit back, highlighting the quirk of geography that underpins some of this view. “He promised things that Europeans take for granted, but Americans are told are impossible,” said Dutch environmentalist and former government advisor Alexander Verbeek in the wake of Tuesday’s election.

Verbeek backed this with a comment he had overheard in an Oslo café, in which Mamdani was described as an American politician who “finally” sounded normal.

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[–] not_me@piefed.social 126 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

It is time for the Americans to wake up and strike for all the freedoms and benefits that we have enjoyed here in Europe for 50 years

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 33 points 17 hours ago (2 children)
[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 12 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

TSA didn't show up to work in Houston, people are starting to protest how they can. If they're not getting paid anyway...

Edit: here's the video: https://nitter.net/Suzierizzo1/status/1985813704277991745#m

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe -3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

That’s great! But unless they say “we are never coming back unless…,” The rich people can hold out.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 15 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Why are you being so negative about the pushes forward Americans are doing?

The young Bernie made it to mayor in fucking NYC. There was so much money against him there, he still won.

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe -4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

People get complacent. They will think this one voting season means a blue trend. They are so far from wrong it’s just… you gotta laugh. We are on the cusp of martial law… if this isn’t your primary political concern, then I dunno how to help you.

[–] huppakee@piefed.social 1 points 1 hour ago

The 'enemy' the Americans face today is much more comparable to the 'enemy' the Europeans faced until the 19th century and before. The power of rich families and (large corporations) diminished in Europe in the 20th century, making the push for a better lifestyle a lot easier. Slaves and peasant weren't complacent of themselves, they were made powerless by the system they were born in. If you look at history, the more powerful the US became on the world stage the more civil rights were established in less powerfull but equally developed nations. It's no coincidence that since the second world war the Europeans increasingly got better healthcare, education, pensions etc while the American progression on civil liberties slowly came to a pause. It's a complicated story, but complacency is a luxury only the well off can afford. A lot of those that are not fighting the system are busy getting by and trying to get to the end of the month.

[–] not_me@piefed.social 11 points 17 hours ago (5 children)
[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 59 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (5 children)
[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 47 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Theres no social safety net to fall on during protests/strike but they would have to do mass strikes/protests to get those safety nets. Hell the poor excuse of social safety nets Americans do have disappear if the government just decides to shut down.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 45 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Keeping healthcare coupled to employment will forever be the chains on the US working class. Food, child care, many social services can be absorbed through community solidarity but healthcare costs are unbreakable.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 14 points 15 hours ago

It’s almost as if that is the plan

[–] virku@lemmy.world 11 points 16 hours ago

That's what unions are for.

[–] not_me@piefed.social 9 points 16 hours ago

Same like here in Belgium 100 years ago

[–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 2 points 14 hours ago

"They took some much from us that they took out our fear"

[–] guy@piefed.social 0 points 12 hours ago

This was the situation in the late 19th century for the workers in Sweden. They somehow managed?

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 10 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Mostly fear, driven by stupidity. Socialism is indistinguishable from Communism and on par with Nazism in some parts of the US. There's also the myth of American exceptionalism, that we can succeed where others have failed because 'Merica.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 8 points 14 hours ago

Someone i know on fb literally just posted that they are glad snap ended so people have to work hard like him.

Everyone commented he was an absolute idiot. So that was good.

So yes, its American individualism at work. Fuck everyone. I got mine (especially if they have kids, then theyre 1000x more selfish, as is natural).

Wish I could move.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

On par with nazism would be a good thing for MAGA wouldn't it?

[–] lukaro@lemmy.zip 2 points 14 hours ago

We can succeed where others fail in all things except taking care of each other.

[–] aarch0x40@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

Well indoctrinated to enshitification.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 3 hours ago

Little bit of column A, little bit of column B.

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The problem with fighting is that there is a chance you will lose something. United States citizens still have it pretty good compared to most of the world. Yes, that’s falling fast, but I think it will take a generation or two for that to really sink in. So, it’s not bad enough to take chances just yet. (Lazy)

Also, there is quite a bit of corruption on every level, and most US citizens with any amount of power are more than willing to throw their neighbor under a bus if it will benefit themselves. This means that, should any sort of strike happen, there will be plenty of scabs and shitty rich people to squash that. (Fear)

Also, over the past many decades, public opinion has been manipulated into thinking that supporting the company is better than supporting your comrade. Quite a number of people think unions are a bad thing. And while they’re certainly can be bad unions, that does not make the concept bad. (ignorance)

For example, The huge amount of work and public support to required to entirely dismantle an industry like Health Insurance is unfathomably large. It would mean work loss for millions who won’t have skills outside that industry. The transition to socialized healthcare would undoubtedly be rocky at best—and people will die. And trillions of dollars would be “lost.” The rich would never allow it, they would sink the whole ship before caving to the people.

I’m all for it. Strike until 100% socialism. But people with kids? They are not so bloodthirsty.

[–] not_me@piefed.social 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

A century ago, the church and the landlords were supreme, child mortality and child labor were commonplace here. The socialist trade union has broken the power of the church over the state. This has only been achieved through many and long-lasting strikes. Now we are the land of beer, chocolate and fries

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Church took back its power while we were watching TV. Back to square one.

[–] not_me@piefed.social 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Stand up and start again 🧨

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 2 points 15 hours ago

And don’t sit down next time ffs lol

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 8 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

50? You got these rights in the 1970s?