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Originally Posted By u/Particular_Log_3594 At 2025-03-23 11:53:01 AM | Source


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[–] Sibshops@lemm.ee 157 points 4 days ago (4 children)

This is why democrats lost. They don't care what their base wants.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 57 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The republicans fear their base, the democrats loathe their base.

[–] Draces@lemmy.world 51 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Republicans definitely loathe their base

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 15 points 4 days ago

Maybe, but the fear prevents them from expressing as much; they regularly change their positions and messaging to match whatever the rabid hogs that make up the core of their base are baying for.

Meanwhile democrats see it as a virtue to stand up to their base. West Wing has done irreparable damage to their brains.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago

they fear and loath them.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

that because republicans will stop voting for them in a hearbeat; while democrats will also vote blue no matter who ... and what.

[–] Draces@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Dems literally just lost because their base didn't show up what are you talking about?

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

they lost the presidential election, we still have mostly the same dems as before

[–] Draces@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

we still have mostly the same dems as before

What does that have to do with Dems always voting blue when they clearly didn't? To remind you what your point was since you seem to have forgotten:

democrats will also vote blue no matter who … and what.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

it's simple: they either vote blue or they don't vote

[–] Draces@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yes and not voting blue is the antithesis of:

vot[ing] blue no matter who

But also, Republicans vote Red or don't vote. It's in the name. You keep making meaningless points.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Did DNC lose if most pro Israel candidate won?

[–] RymrgandsDaughter@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Exactly, this is why Chuck and Jefferies are making these plays while AOC is literally campaigning with an Independent candidate.

This is why Marshals weren't sent after Trump

This is why no Cases against election tampering were brought up. And no recount was called.

This is why Korne, these ridiculous illegal deportations, and near complete obliteration of the federal government is allowed.

Because Kamala could not have gotten away with letting Israel go hog wild like this. Corpo Dems can save face by saying that was Trump!

But Schumer is an idiot and he basically admitted that what Netanyahu is doing is what the Corpo Dems wanted. Between his goofy ass book tour and his "My job is to make sure the DNC stays pro-Isreal" it's all laid out in the open.

He's hoping the strangle hold idea that "we can't make or split the party" will keep the party together and behind his leadership. But if AOC said tomorrow that she was starting a new party because that DNC leadership will no longer oppose Trump and laid out proofs. I'd jump ship immediately. I'm hoping she and other get enough momentum that the party can fracture. Because that is the only way to get the country back, a complete rejection of Corpos.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

This is why Marshals weren’t sent after Trump

Before Oct 7th, thinking was Trump would be best opponent to prop up. We'd have a better democracy if he was in military prison/trials he couldn't indefinitely delay, or he had fallen out of a window.

no Cases against election tampering were brought up. And no recount was called.

Big evidence of DNC being pro Trump, or not enough zionist funding against election rigging.

illegal deportations, and near complete obliteration of the federal government is allowed.

Not sure I see the link to Israel there. CIA propaganda defunding would be neutral. Foreign policy abuses are likely designed to control genocide tolerance. All colonies have distanced further from Russia and China. Peace against Russia, has explicitly cited "meeting point victories" for controlling Iran.

Because that is the only way to get the country back, a complete rejection of Corpos.

US elections require massive money. Actual "only way out" is to declare Zionism a hate group, and invalidate citizenship/office of any politician supporting zionism, and zero out wealth of any donors/media supporting them. It is only path to neutralize money that is used to brainwash us.

[–] RymrgandsDaughter@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

The link to the destruction of our government is hoping that Americans stop paying attention to Israel at all. "Who cares what's happening over there look here!" only works if there's no Internet and no way to nationally distribute information that isn't Corpo controlled.

It did require insane money but I think we are able to get around that because there are too many communication channels. Their only hope is to tire us out when it comes to pushing our messages and shadow banning. I definitely think that labeling Zionists as a hate group and a straight up terrorist organization is definitely the way forward. I think the same about Maga tbfh.

[–] Muaddib@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Because Kamala could not have gotten away with letting Israel go hog wild like this.

We should have ruined her day by electing her president. We let her lose, and now she's laughing at us. We played right into her trap.

[–] RymrgandsDaughter@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

We literally tried, and if the election tampering handed her the loss we did. That's why she didn't fight it at all. She'd have been fucked having to hold back Netanyahu for four more years

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

i think the Ds were banking on letting GOP be the lightning rod for the cause/damage they do, and come in and save the day. its backfiring.

[–] RymrgandsDaughter@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

The amount of people that are going to starve and die as a result of this will be unforgettable. If this was the Ds plan which it seems to have been it just further proves that these ancient fucks don't understand social media or technology in general.

20 years ago if police raided my home and sent me to another country illegally it would take weeks before an article was created telling my story if that. And even longer before randoms found out about it. Nowadays I can send texts and social media posts while they're busting down my door with video clips. Multiply that by millions.

We aren't going to forget the seniors that Musk has erroneously labeled as dead even though they're alive completely screwing them because we can see it happening in real time.

We're not going to forget the hundreds of people human trafficked to El Salvador because we have a list of names before the planes even landed.

We're not going to forget the Palestinian genocide and human trafficking. We're certainly not going to forget that Israeli soldiers have been told to sexually assault literally everyone they capture.

We're not going to forget Cucklefuck Schumer and the DNC whining about being useless when Mitch has done more with less.

If senior Dems think they're going to look like heroes they're so out of touch with reality that they'd think a guillotine is a crown.

[–] Bloomcole@lemm.ee 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You can't even become a candidate if you haven't bowed down on that AIPAC stage pledging allegiance and unconditional support.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca -5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Biden/Harris wasn't willing to shut down free speech at universities, with deportations, and funding threats. Schumer probably wanted Kent State.

[–] Bloomcole@lemm.ee 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Biden/Harris wasn’t willing to shut down free speech at universities

The selective memory again.
He had plenty of protesters arrested facing serious exaggerated charges.
Let protest encampments be dismantled and students violently beaten by his heavily armed police forces and even fanatic zionists that could do what they wanted without any objection from the complicit regime.
All of these dems are 100% genocide collaborators and participants, if not traitors by harming their own citizens for the benefit of an even more horrible regime.

And he was certainly going to deport Palestinians.
He simply postponed it under prsessure, since they would've been dropped in the middle of a genocide.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca -3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Let protest encampments be dismantled and students violently beaten by his heavily armed police forces and even fanatic zionists that could do what they wanted without any objection from the complicit regime.

ADL and zionist hedge fund managers complained that it wasn't enough, and I don't think it was federal law enforcement doing the beatings. Proud Boys showed up in anti-protests protected by cops.

[–] Bloomcole@lemm.ee 7 points 4 days ago

ADL and zionist hedge fund managers complained that it wasn’t enough
Nothing is enough for these freaks.

And US regime cops certainly beat protesters.
I forgot to mention the Proud Boys indeed, but certainly zionists, some indentified as part of the IDF.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 5 points 3 days ago

they effectively censored many universities early in the war too.

[–] Bloomcole@lemm.ee 7 points 4 days ago

Apparently 'embrace patriotism' an 'removing too left wing elements' is what they base want.
That's their plan.