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Trump Says He’ll Defy Court Order, Withhold SNAP Until Dems Drop Demands and Reopen Gov’t
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So, it's either healthcare subsidies or food? You can't have both? Even though we had both before Republicans took it all away, so they could give tax breaks to Trump's rich donors?
Fuck these assholes.
It's also a bit of PR nightmare for the GOP. Trump defying the court order shifts the blame back onto them.
In a less polarized and post truth world you’d probably be right. I fear however that the solid 36-37% maga base will never find an issue that can’t be spun or rationalized. In the magasphere this situation seems to be framed as the GOP stepping up to fight against free health care for illegal immigrants which seems divorced from reality.
It's not an accident...
When Nixon resigned, Roger Ailes wrote a memo that accidentally ended up in the icon presidential library:
https://www.poynter.org/reporting-editing/2011/memo-from-1970-a-plan-for-putting-the-gop-on-tv-news/
They knew that if they owned the media, they could control what people thought, and no republican president would ever have to resign due to public outcry again.
Luckily, he was held back by federal regulations, until a good ole capitalist from Arkansas got elected and decided anyone should be able to own media in America:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommunications_Act_of_1996
After that it was gloves off and the billionaires gobbled up every aspect of the "news" industry and maintain almost exclusive control over what a majority of Americans hear.
TBF, the problem with media was well underway before Clinton came along. The Fairness Doctrine being done away with under Ronnie Raygun opened the floodgates.
Trump is posting on social media that Biden's administration was just giving SNAP benefits away. His idiot supporters are gonna believe it.
I truly think that a good amount of these people could be personally executed by Trump shooting them in the chest, and while Trump says "I know what you are and I hate you" they would lay there dying and say "Oh it's okay, I know you didn't mean that. Everyone makes mistakes sometimes. I still support what you're doing overall." or possibly even "I guess I do deserve to die if you say so".
Now I will say the majority of even the maga team is not this nuts. But some definitely are. Many humans have unfortunately had the privilege to never interact with the kind of person who will truly never change their mind. I've known one or two, and it's a really mind-expanding experience, almost like you're meeting an extraterrestrial. It's hard for people who haven't seen them to believe 👽 lol
I think by saying he'll defy a court order, he's letting the supreme court know they have to okay whatever bullshit he comes up with. Otherwise, it will become obvious that they can't do jack shit.
Was the order even appealed or did he just tell them to pound sand?
No idea. They always take their time, delay, and appeal so I just assume that'll be the eventual resolution.
it was always on them, but more never hurts.
If the government can't afford to feed and heal the people, they shouldn't be building a ballroom. I was taught in school to pay for your needs before your wants.
But the ballroom is all being paid for by the people who are hoping Trump will do them favors. So, that makes it none of our business.
In the end it's going to be neither. Because once you give way on one front, it is proven that you'll negotiate.
This is literally how we got here. Dems capitulated over and over during Obama's presidency to keep programs like SNAP going, and Republicans have run the same strategy ever since. Stonewall everything as long as you can, and blame it on the other side the entire time. And people eat it up every single time.
I feel like dems should add to their list of demands- if the Rs dont agree to reverse course on Healthcare now, dems will not agree to reopen until all missed snap benefits are paid back retroactively- if it goes another week, they will not vote until ice is fully refunded, etc
Be thankful you get a choice.
We didn’t get a choice about bailing out Argentina. Or soybean sales to China.