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[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 73 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, but you say that like this would still be happening if Trump hadn't won.

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 53 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Yeah people like this think a dumpster fire and a forest fire are equally bad.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 43 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm gonna say it unequivocally...

I'd much rather live under neolibs than Nazis.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Neolibs are the reason we have Nazis running the government though. They've help turn this nation into a festering pile of shit to the point that people are turning to a convicted felon and pedophile conman who tells them what they want to hear in order to fix things.

If neolibs had ever actually done anything beneficial, these people wouldn't be so desperate to believe a shuckster who gives them easy scapegoats to blame all their problems on. These 'leaders' don't give a shit about you or I any more than your standard Republican politician. They have a (D) next to their name because it gives them a better chance at winning elections in certain areas, which gives them money, power, and influence. That's all that 98% of politicians care about.

If we ever want to get out of this mess, people need to stop clinging to the very same team sport, tribalistic bullshit politics that brought us to this very.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

People weren't being shot by unaccountable, masked secret police when the neolibs were in charge.

If you want to make the argument that the only thing that could light a fire under people's butts to change things was allowing this to happen, fine. I disagree, but that's at least logically consistent.

But neither then nor now have I seen any concerted effort to develop a real alternative.

This is like when the idiot superintendent of my school system kept trying to get people to vote for a levy for a new high school, and the citizens kept telling him "No. The high school we have now is fine."

So finally the superintendent just had the high school demolished. Now they HAD to pass the levy to get a new high school built, right?

Nope. They still didn't pass it and now everything is EXTRA fucked.

It's gonna be a LOT harder to come up with a real alternative to the two party system while we're under jack-booted one party rule.

And for all their corporate nonsense, the corporate dems at least kept a social safety net functioning so people could have SOME semblance of life, albeit INCREDIBLY insufficient.

Under Trump, good luck.

[–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

here in canada, the neolibs pissed off the far right so much they decided to park their 18-wheeelers in front of parliament and threatened to overthrow the government, oh and also had armed men at the US-Canada border at coutts.

I mean if there was real tyranny i would of supported them but checks notes wearing a mask and taking a vaccine is government control because fuck grandma.

[–] verdantbanana@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago

of course not when democrats are in charge hidden much better because we have to maintain the illusion that we have two choices because some people cannot accept the reality that both sides are not our side

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

This isn't a popular truth.

If people are still mentally framing this as a conflict between Democrats and Republicans they're failing to diagnose the problem.

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Telling the truth is a dangerous business.