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[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 164 points 1 day ago (52 children)

The best part about the entirety of this comic is that Nazis are the exception to Batman's "No Killing" rule. He straight up murders a dozen Nazis before a priest stops him.

It's about time Nazis see that the world feels the same about them that they feel about others.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

The best part about the entirety of this comic is that Nazis are the exception to Batman’s “No Killing” rule.

It's curious, because Batman's always been tinged with reactionary politics. You've got your Eco-Terrorist in Poison Ivy, your Unfuckable Migrant Gangster in Penguin, your Smug Ivory Tower Elitist in Riddler, your corrupt hedonist politician in Two Face, and your Psycho Carny/Gypsie/Vagrant in The Joker. The Feds are all useless or complicit. The Arkham Asylum is all Hugs for Thugs (when they're not doing Clockwork Orange shit to turn supervillains into weapons of the state). The only person you can trust is a billionaire vigilante working with the silent consent of a handful of "Good Cops" who turn a blind eye to his paramilitary crusade.

Writing Batman as "Anti-KKK" really loses track of the origins of the character. This guy basically IS the KKK, or at least some Disney-fied crime-fighting John Galt equivalent.

It’s about time Nazis see that the world feels the same about them that they feel about others.

Nazis have always had their own fascist media. Writing the "Batman that punches the Skinhead" comic does nothing to deter the actual white nationalists who are generating reams and reams of AI Slop where Charlie Kirk with angel wings guns down a rampaging horde of blue-haired ISIS day laborers.

The back-and-forth of the culture war isn't new. FFS, look at the Frank Miller Batman of the '00s. Or the Batman as depicted in Red Son, who serves as Superman's foil because his parents were dissident kulaks murdered by Superman's alt-history adopted father, Joseph Stalin.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Writing Batman as "Anti-KKK" really loses track of the origins of the character. This guy basically IS the KKK

Imma need you to explain

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago

Is Batman Actually a Fascist?

When Batman beats goons to a pulp because they supposedly deserve it, he’s approaching criminality as a moral choice. There’s an obvious correlation between social inequality and criminality, and it’s simplistic and dangerous to say some people are just “bad.” Still, when Batman goes out at night breaking bones, he ignores the core issues of Gotham City’s economy and simply flexes his millionaire's muscles. By the way, this is the main argument used to defend the idea that Batman is fascist.

This is, incidentally, the rationale du jour of Red Scare Era KKK. Lynching black labor activists for agitating against the local government. Batman quite literally hangs people from lampposts, in a manner highly reminiscent of the "strange fruit" Billie Holiday sings about. They also popularized "policing" neighborhoods through night raids against black businesses that were deemed "criminal" purely through their relative success. Again, this goes to the manner in which Batman routinely roughs up members of the "legitimate" side of (what the author has decided are) criminal businesses.

Bruce Wayne’s vast financial resources only complicates the Batman character. The idea of a millionaire spending thousands of dollars on gadgets he uses to beat down poor criminals is problematic, to say the least.

It should be noted how many members of the Klan were, themselves, landlords and politicians and industrial millionaires of the era. They used their superior resources and their political connections with the police to engage in violent vigilantism against "criminals" like Emmett Till and Joe Spinner Johnson. And they organized within the Klan to promote racist policies at the public level, in the same way that Wayne Enterprises influences politics in Gotham City.

Let’s take Frank Miller’s Dark Knight Returns timeline, for instance. That Batman is unquestionably a fascist.

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Batman puts himself above the law and brainwashes an army of lost souls to enact his will, crushing everyone he defines as an enemy. Instead of acting on a moral gray area, Miller’s take on Batman extrapolates some of the Dark Knight's tendencies to show how the vigilante’s crusade against crime could turn him into a full-blown fascist.

Probably the most naked example.

Obviously, this varies by writer. And you can always find more liberal/leftist authors who have re-positioned Batman as explicitly anti-slavery, anti-apartheid, and pro-union labor. But these are very novel interpretations, relative to the character as originally portrayed.

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