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After police used Flock cameras to accuse a Denver woman of theft, she had to prove her own innocence (coloradosun.com)
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[–] frunch@lemmy.world 180 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (10 children)

I strongly encourage everyone interested in this topic (and you should be!) to read the article because this shit runs deep and they see absolutely no problem approaching the law in this fashion. Absolutely disgusting erosion of liberty and privacy, though it's not the least bit surprising. Here's an excerpt i found particularly chilling--this cop is fully convinced (or acting as if he were) about the validity of this minimal-effort investigation they apparently were ready to arrest someone over. Note that weeks later it was fully disproven and ended with a terse email acknowledging that she provided enough proof to absolve herself as the suspect. No accountability for their mistake, just: "you can go now"

“You know we have cameras in that town. You can’t get a breath of fresh air in or out of that place without us knowing,” Milliman said to Elser, according to Ring doorbell footage of the Sept. 27 encounter viewed by The Colorado Sun.

“Just as an example, you’ve driven there about 20 times in the last month,” he added. 

Along with the Flock footage, the sergeant told Elser he also had a video from the theft victim that allegedly showed Elser ringing the doorbell before grabbing a package and running away. 

My favorite part

“I guess this is a shock to you, but I am telling you, this is a lock. One hundred percent. No doubt,” Milliman said.

😳

But Elser, a financial advisor, told the sergeant she had no idea what he was talking about. She asked several times to watch the video that Milliman insisted proved her guilt, but he refused to show her. And when Elser offered up footage from her Rivian’s onboard cameras to prove her innocence, Milliman said she could bring it to court.

“It doesn’t matter. I’ll be giving this all to you. If you are going to deny it to me, I am not going to help you with any courtesy,” Milliman said.

“It’s kind of funny because we have cameras on our truck, so we could show you exactly where we were,” Elser said. 

We are really fucked here. No accountability on their end, while foisting 200% accountability on ours.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 35 points 3 days ago

If "video of someone roughly looking like you" is enough to completely reverse the burden of proof, then you can throw the whole justice system out of the window.

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