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I feel like it's more bleeding into, ok x-er now.
Not to say that all of Gen X's like this, but I'm definitely seeing some of the older ranks falling into this sort of behavior
My GenX dad sure did shut the fuck up about the job market and economy once he had to find a new one. He gave up and retired after working a handful of shitty ones after he got laid off the good job.
My GenX dad calling me and complaining about how much Indeed sucked for finding jobs was extremely validating.
Indeed fucking sucks 😡
It does, but wtf else do we have? The other options might have one better feature and then several that are worse.
I wish i could do that.
i did, and im only 35. thanks mental health disorders!
Same.
being a stupid ignorant asshole has nothing to do with age or generations.
i know tons of 20/30 somethings who think just like boomers. who are in the same total denial of reality and living in their little bubble world. they think facts, evidence, etc, is a conspiracy or it's just straight up evil because it makes them feel bad.
and they want to feel good and think anyone who makes them feel bad should just die.
Yes. But where is the most common? I think that's the point. That they are usually of the boomer variety.
in my experience it's everyone. very few people care about facts or evidence. most lemmy posters do not.
i went to college 20 years ago and a huge chunk of my peers were completely immune to facts and evidence back then.
it's not an age thing, it's a basic operating feature of human psychology, no matter your age.
people who able to change their views based on new information are exceedingly rare. most folks just follow the 'party line' because that's what gains them social acceptance/popularity, and going against it gets you socially ostracized.
I guess you just proved the point, mate. You dont have to be a boomer to have dumb as fuck takes....
To know what averages are is dumb? Interesting takeaway.
Gen X here, sadly can confirm :( I see what used to be friends turn into selfish people, ignorant derps or conspiracy/russia shills. Or a combination thereof. It's depressing to watch this process up close and have no antidote.
Let me Tell you a story from a whippersnapper if you care to listen. When I was young and roaming the digital wild West, there's one thing I kept seeing from my peers. People saying "as a millennial/ gen. Z, I'm sorry for my generation" This is always stuck with me as something that was depressing in and of itself, but that also gave me pause for the idea that we needed to be sorry for something in the first place. They were apologizing for stupid things like memes or childish behavior, but I had seen them do these things in the past and have a great time doing it.
The main thing this taught me is that people are a product of their time and the current time. It's usually not worth it to just write these people off as lost souls, but rather to reach out and try to peel back that layer of societal contempt. There's still a human under there and they still have some of the old ideals you used to know, just under a layer of dust. When I see my peers changing nowadays, I don't let that affect my perception of them, I still remember them as the Goofy 14-year-olds shouting swag in the hallways. Now, whenever I meet up with them, I make the effort to brush off whatever nonsense they're going on about now and peel back that layer to see the version of them that I know and grew up with.
It's easier than you might think, just takes a few well placed laughs and you've got your friends back
Even assuming your observation was universally true (which I doubt, I firmly believe people can irreversibly deteriorate) - there are circumstances that can prevent you from reaching people. To name the immediate two that come to mind:
I agree with StarvingMartist, it really is much easier to be an enabler than it is to give a shit about values. It's easier than you might think.
Sure if you want to belittle my point and make a joke, be my guest! Ultimately I can't change your mind so I'm not going to bother trying, just like with my friends and family, I'm going to brush off the dust and keep navigating this complex spiderweb we call life.
I just know I won't be doing it alone and isolated from people just because they have a different viewpoint.
Ironically, you and people who speak like this are the truly belittling ones. It's much harder and more courageous to hold values and stick to them than it is to delude yourself and others into believing bad things really aren't that bad, and that we can all hold hands and laugh it away like anime characters if we just try hard enough.
These things are not mutually exclusive, either. You can absolutely cry laugh over something with an evil nazi boomer. It won't change who they are, though - they need to do that themselves, and comforting platitudes are what they count on people endlessly giving them in order for them never to have a reason to do so.
You and I have very different definitions of sticking to your values.
Im GenX, and Ill say it. You are all moaning gits, too stupid to get out for your own way because the upvotes from saying "popular thing" are just too good. Every comment I read, goes into this issue like they want to buy a forever home right off the bat in the fancy part of town. Its no wonder people cant afford anything with that mentality.
In 2003, I bought a 25% share of a single bedroom flat in the shitty part of town. It was 8k. I was earning around £4.50 an hour, before tax and national insurance. This was me getting on the ladder. As the cost of housing increased, so did my investment, and I kept on saving. So ten years later, I was able to sell and get into a bigger house in a less shit part of town. Another 10 years later, same thing, only now Im in a pretty OK part of town in a 3 bedroom detached, and it all it took was not being a fucking idiot with my money. And before you accuse me of being rich, I have never once earned more than 30k a year.
So what are people pissing their money away on that I didnt? Well, I cant speak to avocado toast, but I can point to cigarettes and drinking as some of the main reasons why I own a home and no one else I grew up with does.
The Average smoker smokes 10 a day, thats 1 20 deck very 2 days. The average cost of a 20 deck is around 15 quid. So on cigarettes along, thats already 225 quid a month. The average person in the UK has at least one night out a week. The average night out costs around 60 quid. Thats 240 quid. Thats a total of 465 quid per month on just smoking and drinking. Or 5,580 quid a year. Over 10 years thats 55,800 quid. And if you are telling me, that THAT is not enough to get a deposit for a house? Im sorry, Im calling bullshit.
Things might not be as easy as they once were, and yes the prices are stupid, and yes landlords are cunts, but people keep on talking like they have no options. The average wage of a full time worker in the UK is 37k a year. There is zero reason that a person making that much cant save as I have outlined here, and get themselves a deposit for a mortgage that will allow them to be able to afford somewhere to live. But if you want to live in a major city... well, thats a YOU problem. Theres plenty of housing around cities with minimal travel times that are inside values Ive outlined here. A lot of people need to get out of their own way, and stop making excuses. If you want to be able to afford a house, you have to make some sacrifices.