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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Jesus Christ. I'm talking to someone justifying the slaughter of fucking doctors and teachers and children, and I'm the bad guy in this discussion

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I mean if the doctors and teachers are part of a slaver society than I don't mind the dying. Like who do you think were the people upholding apartheid in south africa for example? Especially doctors, teachers and other such middle class people that benefitted from apartheid but without having to get their hands dirty were the ones handwringing about "civility". They always have such a nice facade and talk politely but their livelihood built on the back of the labor of the oppressed is very very precious to them and they are for freedom in theory, but don't want to give up any of their privileges.

Or as Assata Shakur put it

As far as I’m concerned, ‘liberal’ is the most meaningless word in the dictionary. History has shown me that as long as some white middle-class people can live high on the hog, take vacations to Europe, send their children to private schools, and reap the benefits of their white skin privilege, then they are ‘liberal’. But when times get hard and money gets tight, they pull off that liberal mask and you think you’re talking to Adolf Hitler. They feel sorry for the so-called underprivileged just as long as they can maintain their own privileges.”

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I mean if the doctors and teachers are part of a slaver society than I don't mind the dying.

Fuck you. Quit running apologetics for genocide. Dessalines did not wait to check if the people he was having raped and murdered played any role in the institution of slavery.

Still I'm not gonna blame the oppressed for their overboiling anger. The blame should be placed squarely at the feet of the slavers and the french for their betrayal of Toussaint which no doubt eroded any notion of trust. The slavers created this situation. A lot of undereducated people that experienced nothing but unjust violence for all their life repaying in kind is not on the same scale as, say the armenian genocide. Or the palestinian genocide. Or really any genocide, which is largely characterised by a settler society stealing the land and possessions of indigenous people.