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No one "worries" about seeing it. It's that if you engage with anyone from, or anything posted in, a .ml, about any topic at all, you'll eventually be hit with "capitalism causes all problems in the universe" or the rest of their standard "I'm 19 and this is deep" tankie talking points like some mandatory checklist of things they have to cram into every post or they get kicked out of the instance. It's exhausting and pointless. No one runs around elsewhere in Lemmy making it a point to defend capitalism, so it's just of a constant eye-roll when "I'm an independent thinker! Here's the same thing we all say!" happens.
Edit: OOOh, seems like I struck a nerve, eh?
When people post comments like yours or memes like the above it really comes off as defending capitalism and the status quo...
Don't you understand how mypoic a view that it? How dependent it is on you thinking you have an absolute lockdown on ALL ideas there can be, and that anyone who isn't you is against you? Only a fool would think that everything is split in perfect dualism and that you're the only one that's right.
It's basically the same thing I see from super evangelical family members. If it's not something they like, it's "from Satan." Is that really a behavior you're trying to emulate? That level of absolutism and rigidity of thought?
FFS, both Lenin and Marx warned you about the dangers of rigid thinking. And here you are, doing exactly that! You're not even a good Marxist!
You're taking everything to absurd extremes and assuming I'm something that's convenient for your weak argument. People posting memes like this are pushing for the lockdown of ideas.
Speaking of taking it to extremes, y'all (or maybe 1 person with 5 accounts, it's hard to tell) so far in this thread people have reacted to saying "yeah, they're annoying about how they interact with other people" as: trying to put ideas on lockdown, wanting to silence anyone "left of me," that I'm actively supporting all existing political structures and capitalism, and then a ton of personal attacks. Because I explained the joke to someone else.
I especially loved that my "hopes are also profoundly stupid." Ah yes, a response that is classy, high-brow, and I'm fairly sure it's a direct quote from Lenin at the Zimmerwald Conference (since I have to tell you all, apparently, that was sarcasm).
Seriously, look around here. Y'all are not fun to talk to in general about anything because of this right here. And when someone says it out loud, you happily confirm you're not fun to talk to and do the thing that the meme is about.
This isn't about your ideas, it's about how abrasive and annoying you are to interact with. Look at how many times I've had to repeat that, and every time you all immediately jump to "yOu'Re sIlEnCiNg iDeAs!" No, y'all are bad at human-to-human interaction. Without enough self-reflection to even pause and see that's what was happening from the start.
Then block them and quit whining that people don't like exploitation as much as you.
Did you know the explaining the thing doesn't mean one endorses the thing? Did you know that explaining the thing isn't "whining" about it, but, in fact, is explaining the perspective of another person? It's important to learn about other perspectives, even if you don't like them.
I find it mildly annoying, but not bad enough to bother blocking anyone.
This sure sounds like whining. Because that's all you're doing. How dare people to your left not immediately kill themselves for your comfort.
Let's consider the same text with a different context and see if it sounds like something else.
I wrote this as essentially the statistics of interactions, and acknowledging that it will end a conversation about any other topic, no matter how much work one puts into keeping the conversation on topic. It's just very likely to be how interactions go in my experience. Doesn't actually bother me one bit, but it does seem like a poor way to go through life.
And the "19 and edgy" thing? Come on. You're whining because people to your left are allowed to speak and you want permanent silence so you can listen to the fascists on the right.
yeah, it reminds me of college freshmen. You get one idea stuck in your head and lose all sense of nuance or perspective.
No, y'all are annoying about HOW you communicate your opinions. Which I've repeated several times in this thread and none of you seem able or willing to understand it's communication style and not the ideas that anyone is talking about here. And it's just annoying, no one wants to silence you, you can't even understand that. Y'all are so sensitive that simply calling you out for being abrasive about one thing is some grant attack on your ego and all the "right" ideas in the world and your entire identity. You're just as bad as any MAGA people can be.
Say anything you want, but I can get "it's capitalism's fault!!1!" anywhere. It's not a unique or special take. That doesn't 1) make it necessarily true, and 2) convince anyone that maybe it actually is capitalism's fault. Tell me WHY, in that circumstance, be specific, nuanced, and detailed about why you think capitalism did he bad thing. Maybe listen to Marx about rigidity of thought.
I do not look forward to your response where you make up some BS about me selling stocks to pay for this interaction or something equally untrue and absurd.
Which is why the previous two "tankie" instances have been defederated. And why, once centrists have their way and .ml is defederated, they're going to pick another instance to designate the "tankie" instance.
You can block the left you don't want to listen to. Instead, you whine about them because you want them silenced.
My friend, I will say yet again, it's not about blocking "The Left." It's that you can't talk to other humans about anything at all and not be so abrasive and focused on making anything at all an attack on your beliefs that no one cares about that people don't invite you over to their place to hang out anymore.
If I wanted this from social media, I would go back on facebook.
I know. If you wanted to block the left, you would have done so. You want them silenced by force. It's why you keep whining.
Facebook is certainly more in alignment with your views. And just as eager to remove ideas you don't want anyone to be allowed to hear.
A statement made with zero evidence to support it. Do you even understand that if we're communicating with each other, you and your ideas are not "blocked"? FFS, we probably have quite a bit on common, and because you have zero actual information you invent enemies to meet your confirmation biases. Plus, this is Lemmy, there is no force here.
Look, you subscribe to an ideology, which is fine, and you and the .ml crowd seem to hold an extreme version of that ideology. The ideology itself doesn't even matter, it's that people holding extreme viewpoints are obsessive about them. Obsessive behavior does not make it easy to have a normal conversation about anything. Here's me taking the same comment and changing only the ideology and it's perfectly applicable the same way.
I can do this 50 times over, talking about MAGA, about any religion, about the CCP, about those labubu dolls, about stoners smoking weed, about finance bros and stock trades, about crypto bros and BTC, etc.
And while I understand there are numerous studies that say nothing will ever change your mind and I am wasting my time, I will tell you that if you really worry about "The Left" getting a fair shake, you have to realize that other than the Democratic party, people who do a bad job communicating what "The Left" does means or wants do more help to the fascists on the right by seeming unable to operate like a reasonable human, straight up lying when confronted about being bad communicators, and forcing yourself to the fringes of even left-leaning Lemmy because you can't keep your shit together. It's actually quite sad how people like you have done more to undermine anyone or anything left of center by being basketcases. You enable fascists every day. Look at your post history! It is the stuff they screenshot and post about how they're stable and anyone on the left is nuts.
Anyway, despite the fact that we likely have more in common than not, you'd rather invent lies to try and get some really lazy insults. Fine, fracture anyone left of the fascists. You already helped put us where we are, why not keep going?
You can block me if you don't want to hear anything from your left. But blocking isn't enough for you. You can't stand other people being allowed to listen to anyone who disagrees with you, so you're whining in the hopes that people you disagree with will have their opinions removed so no one can read them. That's why you keep whining.
You won't block people you don't want to hear from because you want others to ban them for you. To censor them for you. To defederate from them for you. If you don't want to hear something, you don't want anyone else to be able to hear it.
No matter how you try to equivocate and say that some random fandom is comparable, the only real thing that you're mad about is that people like things you don't like and you want it stopped.
The rest of your comment is the usual "do whatever we order, shut up and never have an idea to the left of netanyahu, and it's all your fault if we lose because you don't love genocide enough" shit that your garbage wing of the party uses as an excuse for never changing.
Never listen. Never improve. Not like I have to encourage you.
SMH
You're not blocked. I didn't even know .ml instances were getting defederatd until you told me, and it's a moot point anyway as it's easy to make a new account on another server.
I'm engaging with you in conversation. I actually am listening, and you're just saying the same things over and over, and none of them are based in reality.
Also, did you just call religions and the CCP a "fandom"? lol, I want a shirt that says "CCP: Worst fandom ever."
Friend, seriously, you need to find someone to talk to. I know things are a wreck right now in general, but please find someone you can talk with about something more than politics.
First of all, the insinuation that I would ever be your friend disgusts me. Following it up with "you're to my left so there must be something wrong with you" gaslighting isn't surprising in the slightest.
And I'm sick of being blamed for it by people who were willing to lose to trump as long as they didn't have to stop supporting the genocide that will always define them as people.
There's no reason for you to persist with this constant lying. You don't need to invent anything here.
Sick you are, so you say, and sick I expect you shall remain. I'm sorry.
Or keep gaslighting.