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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 52 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (6 children)

Huh. The last I heard was:

Charlie Kirk suspect is a gun-loving Trump supporter

And this:

Charlie Kirk Suspect’s Grandma Says Family Is All MAGA

Is the MAGA accusation against "the left" based in anything at all except their own delusions?

[–] chrischryse@lemmy.world 12 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

I’m be heard he had a trans roommate but still sus on that given only right wing news sites are saying

I’m gonna get downvoted but I have a hard time trusting both sides. I just want this shit to end

[–] blattrules@lemmy.world 12 points 8 hours ago

Yeah I saw that the governor is pushing that one. The governor seems to be grasping at anything that implicates him as a lefty though, while publicly saying that he would say the opposite if it were true. Just the fact that he’s disseminating information like that before anything is verified, to me, means that he’s trying to prove his narrative and not looking for answers. Also, the guy having a trans roommate and possible relationship with them could be damning of him being a righty too.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 2 points 44 minutes ago

I just want this shit to end

As fascists advance their program, they always need a new "them" to throw under the bus. It's, by its nature, a politics defined by who isn't part of "us".

In other words, it'll never end with fascists in charge.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 10 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (3 children)

You’re in an echo chamber. There’s been conflicting evidence but no clear ideology that I have seen confirmed. The left is only focused on the evidence he was a right winger and if you go to right-wing forums they’re fixated on the things that suggest he was left-wing.

But we really don’t know for sure. Which still makes Trump’s actions unhinged but that usually goes without saying.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

One of the few things they seem to concretely know is that he acted alone, which makes the call unhinged no matter the ideology.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

I'd also wonder if such a young person has a fully fleshed out position. It's easy to fall victim to the endless stream of thought terminating clichés the right employs. It's also easy to happen upon a situation that seriously calls to question some position previously solidified by those thought terminating clichés. There's reports he lived with a transgender partner. If you've bought into a lot of the hate against transgender people but then suddenly meet one that's kinda hot and into you, I can see that throwing your whole world into a tailspin.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I miss the days when a murderer could just be sick in the head and that was the end of it.

[–] Liljekonvalj@feddit.org 5 points 4 hours ago

That is still all it is to it. Dont get confused. You can call a turd a sandwich all day, doesn't ever make it true.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

There's no evidence at all he's a leftist. There's not much evidence he's MAGA, aside from his family seeming to be

There's clear evidence he's a terminally online gamer, that's all that's really clear.

The mainstream media has been incredibly irresponsible and spreading misinfo on both counts. The guy is alive, we don't have to wonder. He's going to have a chance to speak sooner or later

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 2 points 46 minutes ago

That’s not true the statements on the casings were from Goyper so that’s pretty clearly far right.

[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The narrative is that he got radicalized by left extremist rhetoric.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 12 points 6 hours ago

in one semester, of online community college.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 hours ago

The police have said he had been moving left politically recently though it seems he might be a groyper.

[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 4 points 9 hours ago

No maga accusation is based in reality.