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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The problem is that system changes arbitrarily from one administration to the next, and people who thought they were protected suddenly find themselves unprotected, and then some clown comes along, and just starts throwing out people who thought they were safe for YEARS.

Even Ronald Reagan was able to come up with a fairly reasonable program to deal with the issue at the time, but the current MAGA Nazis literally take pleasure in oppressing people, and undocumented people are easy, low hanging fruit.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

While you're right, there's still a big difference from legal immigrants who were granted temporary residence and illegal immigrants. The former were allowed into the country for a limited duration of time, but the latter weren't allowed in the first place.

[–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's people that qualified for a process, then that process was suspended/ eligibility is changed etc etc etc.

"Illegal immigrants" basically all start as legal migrants working through the paperwork.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I agree with you that the country's migration system needs an overhaul, over being impatient or dissatisfied with the current system is not an excuse to cross into the country illegally.

[–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But you can't tell if you will be here illegally, because the rules are obtuse or change.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The process gets longer or shorter depending on the administration, but the general immigration rules have been more less the same. The only thing that I can think of that can apply to what you're saying is the temporary protection program, but that's a whole different subject.

[–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 15 hours ago

No. Immigration programs change.

https://www.cfr.org/timeline/us-postwar-immigration-policy

Look at all the times things have changed. What do you think happens to the people that are established that no longer qualify and are part way through the process?

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I see you took your idiot pills this morning.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

Yours wasn't very good, and everyone else already told you what was wrong with it. Figured I'd keep it simple in case you had trouble following.