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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 65 points 2 days ago (6 children)

He was almost certainly a groyoer tho...

The term "Groyper" began circulating widely in 2019 during a public feud inside the conservative movement. That year, followers of Nick Fuentes disrupted college events hosted by Charlie Kirk and his group, Turning Point USA, accusing Kirk of watering down Donald Trump's message.

The clash, later referred to as the "Groyper Wars," drew national attention for its confrontational tactics and for pushing white nationalist ideas into more mainstream conservative circles.

Kirk responded by calling the Groypers extremists. He defended his approach to conservatism as inclusive, saying the movement should be open to people of all backgrounds and reject racism and homophobia.

https://www.newsweek.com/groyper-charlie-kirk-shooting-nick-fuentes-2129114

Kirk was just starting his "return tour", and the guy who shot him was a trump supporter.

The most likely explanation is he was a groyper

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 87 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wow. Incorrect from top to bottom. Sit down kid, because I’m only going to explain this once:

His neck just did that.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nah he faked his death. Moved to Casablanca to apprentice as a bottom surgeon duh. He's rooming with Taylor Swift's wife.

[–] nocturne@slrpnk.net 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Are we sure he did not od on fentanyl? Have we seen the tox reports yet?

[–] PineRune@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I read somewhere that ruptured neck tubes are a symptom of fentanyl overdose.

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They're a telltale sign of excited delirium.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Wow he lost an argument so bad he got excited delirium‽ We need to ban arguing on campuses

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

reject racism and homophobia

Sure, Jan

[–] Cypher@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

His last words were a racist dog whistle but anyone with an ounce of intelligence already knew Charlie Kirk was a lying piece of shit.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

He'd already said enough racist shit to make it quite obvious.

But at least he died doing what he loved, advocating for gun violence.

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Wow I didn't know there was specific beef against Kirk to back it up. That's crazy

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

That sounds exactly like gang violence to me. It literally is always projection with these assholes

[–] TheYojimbo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (4 children)

As much as I would love this, what about the messages on the shells ? Weren't they clearly antifa ?

[–] Denjin@feddit.uk 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Other than TRN, what else was on the casings?

[–] Denjin@feddit.uk 4 points 2 days ago

If you're reading this you are GAY! Was one, there's articles that list what was found at the scene.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Writing stupid shit on killing devices is a groyper signature thing. Cause why the fuck would you sign the goddamn crime things?

Same with Annunciation shooting as well. If you hear "they signed the casings" and the sayings aren't related to the victim (like the Thompson "Deny, Defend, Depose") then it's probably a groyper

[–] TheYojimbo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The ones that make me doubt are "hey fascist! CATCH!" and "O Bella ciao, Bella ciao, Bella ciao, Ciao, ciao". I mean I would love for him to be a neonazi, but this feels like wishful thinking...

[–] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] TheYojimbo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Ok thanks interesting !

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Hey fascist, catch", including the arrows that make up the rest of the quote, are a quote from Helldivers 2. Not exactly a smoking gun

[–] TheYojimbo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Ok, didn't know that. Thank you!

[–] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 5 points 1 day ago

Groypers deal in irony laden Internet meme speak. They've co-opted antifascist memes in an ironic way.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nope, 4chan memes and all stuff groypers say constantly

[–] TheYojimbo@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What about "hey fascist! CATCH!" and "O Bella ciao, Bella ciao, Bella ciao, Ciao, ciao" ?

[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hey fascist catch is a reference to hell divers 2. Bella ciao is a song on the groyper wars Spotify playlist

[–] TheYojimbo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Yes someone else told me the same thing, thank you I'm sold !

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

The most likely explanation is he was a groyper

Is it though? This is all ENTIRELY speculation and smells stinkily like more people trying to "disclaim" him from their "side" and everyone is doing it. It's the point of this post. Everyone saying everything else ALSO claims to have "most likely explanations" so it's all entirely speculation and bullshit until I hear verified evidence or an admission, until then you're all playing internet detective/Q-anoning/thread-linking/conspiracy cosplay.