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@MotoAsh@lemmy.world @TomMasz@lemmy.world
Firstly, it's obvious "believing" means "zero evidence". If a belief had any solid evidences, it wouldn't be a belief, it would be a peer-reviewed scientific paper instead.
That said, you're conflating "belief" with "religious hierarchy" when, in reality, belief isn't necessarily dependent on hierarchy. I believe in Lilith and Lucifer, and I have no one "above me" except for Her and Him. In fact, the belief I follow on my own isn't even compatible with any kind of hierarchy, because these entities represent independence and rebelliousness, so it'd be quite paradoxical for me to have a leader/master/priestess/whatever.
Finally, I challenge you to point out any kind of "humanity's ill" inflicted by Luciferianism and other left-hand path beliefs, even those who actually have hierarchies (e.g. Quimbanda).
So, I sincerely remind you, don't generalize and attack every single religion and belief system on Earth because of a half dozen big ones who actually are to blame for many historical wars ("Holy wars") and their interference on scientific progress. Don't demonize the demons and demonesses, we're friends of scientific inquiry. Beware not to do friendly fire.
rofl you refute my statement, backed by centuries of human history... with, "but my religion doesn't have a lord!"
Good job proving my point that it doesn't matter which religion, but belief in bullshit os damaging... because your nonsense is ... nonsense.
@MotoAsh@lemmy.world Where in centuries of human history were there any wrongdoings stemming from Luciferianism and other leaderless occult belief systems? Where in centuries of human history did Luciferianism and other occult belief systems interfered or tried to hinger with scientific progress?
We don't know because the Christians purged the history books of them.
I'm not saying you're just as bad as Christians et. al., just similarly brainless for believing in things without evidence, which IS dangerous on its own.
Go on then try to explain how pagan religions that boil down to "don't fuck with nature, it'll kill you" are damaging?
rofl way to strawman their beliefs... Sure, it makes sense when you leave out everything made up.
Nowhere did I say they're AS BAD as Christians et. al., but belief without evidence is still fucking stupid and harmful to yourself and anyone you teach such drivel to.
idk man saying it doesn't matter what religion you're talking about sounds like you think they're all equally bad to me.
Also idk who's beliefs you think I'm making a strawman out of but I was refering to my own beliefs that help me to actually go into nature as I can at least 4 times a year to help with my depression, maybe I'm more open to it because up until a few years ago I was studying to become a conservationist but it's certainly better than back when I also thought that anyone who believes in something is a dumbass
Your personal religion is not an established religion that has done things theoughout history... So again... good job strawmanning your own argument.
I'm leaning more into druidic paganism personally but paganism has had a massive impact across the planet through it's different forms.
Vikings, Celts, Romans, Greeks, ancient Egyptians, native Americans and aboriginal Australians all practiced / practice some form of pagan religion. If you genuinely believe that not a single one of those culture groups have done anything throughout history then you clearly need to learn some things yourself before you criticise people for believing in any religion.
But I guess I shouldn't expect someone who can't even remember their own arguments to actually understand anything about the world outside their basement.
You are all following demons. Self-proclaimed Satanists, Atheists, "progressivists", billionaires, nazis, racists, bigots, child molesters, and rapists. Men who abuse women and women who abuse men. And those demons hate you more than anyone else can. They'll lead you to the everlasting hellfire. They won't be your friend.
Christians basically invented the scientific method. It has never rejected science apart from some fringe beliefs.