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[–] Twig@sopuli.xyz 153 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (16 children)
[–] delgato@sh.itjust.works 124 points 2 days ago (1 children)

His last words on this earth, “violence”.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 46 points 2 days ago
[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 79 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Extremely unlikely he survived, that shot severed a carotid artery.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 61 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Oh my holy god, fuck, yeah, just watched the vid, jesus fucking christ, there is essentially zero chance he survives that.... oh god.... welp thats enough PTSD trigger s for me today time for ... right I quit cigarrettes... got a vape now... oh...

...ok, might be calling it a day for me using the internet today.

[–] Pistcow@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Eh, you'd be surprised what people can survive. Check out the goalie that got his throat slit on the ice. Buuuut here's for hope'n.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 41 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Maybe don't recommend that to them right now

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I appreciate you =]

I'm doing a bit better now.

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 2 days ago (7 children)

That was a clean slice to the throat and the guy was conscious for several moments afterwards. Kirk took a gunshot wound into/through the neck, pretty much all the blood in his head fell out within seconds, and he immediately lost consciousness.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

My partner guesses his sternocleidomastoid muscle must have gotten severed because his head snapped back like that. This is what keeps your head down and causes TMJ.

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I mean, I despise Kirk as a person...

... but I've seen a face transform the way his did, before.

Oh fuck, (fuck you im having a PTSD attack at the moment) yeah, those ... that total limpness of the body, the slack jaw, the wide open, glazed eyes...

That is bare minimum, at the least, a massive drop in blood flow and pressure to the brain.

Brains don't do so good without blood flow for very long.

Also could easily have severed the spinal cord, shattered vertebrae around the neck.

Possibly also now he's down a lung.

I dunno, Stamets said it was a fairly flat trajectory, looked to be a fairly like, straight ahead, from straight in front of him shot....

I will literally start shaking and crying (and probably screaming and hyperventilating) if I watch more videos / that video again right now, so yeah, 'preliminary analysis'.

...

Sure, sure its maybe technically possible he lives through this, assuming he got bandaged with pressure basically immediately and then also got to an OR within like 15 minutes.

Otherwise... either dead or basically a mostly brain dead / paralyzed vegetable, would be my guess.

I am also not a doctor, and am currently having a panic attack, so, grain of salt and all that.

[–] corvalanlara@eviltoast.org 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

It’s wild how you transmitted the feeling of having a panic attack in your text

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[–] nexas_XIII@midwest.social 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That guy survived because the medical trainer was a Vietnam vet who shoved his fingers in there to pinch it shut. I don’t see that happening here

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Also, skate blade makes a much cleaner cut than a bullet. A lot less collateral damage too. Not to mention whatever the exit wound looks like.

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[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Scott, from Kentucky Ballistics rather famously had a .50 cal explode in his face, a chunk of the gun perforated his neck and went down into his lung, and honestly. He survived and is, outwardly at least, doing pretty well. Stick a thumb in it.

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah but he has the benefit of being a decent human, so people don't actively want him dead

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[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you’re physically up for it, doing a bunch of jumping jacks hits the perfect combination of using up adrenaline and making my lungs hurt to replace emotional smoking. It’s not well received in public though.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago

Hah, I've not heard that, I will try it...

....as soon as I recover from crippling injuries.

I got a bunch specific PT excersises though, thats a good idea, just work out through it.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If he got emergency medical assistance within seconds of this happening there's a small chance. For better and worse doctors got crazy good at keeping gunshot wounds in the field alive long enough to get surgery during the second Iraq war.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago

Yeah... its more or less all about reaction time, from people with good training and equipment.

It sounds stupid and cliche or trope-y but... literally, every second counts.

[–] Draces@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

You can lose about 2L of blood and I just saw more than that come out of him

[–] 0ops@piefed.zip 50 points 2 days ago

Heads up SUPER NSFW

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 45 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I was not prepared for how graphic that was

[–] Fenrir@lemmings.world 8 points 2 days ago

Pretty much encapsulates it

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 45 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, he's done. If you don't want to watch it, just know that it is an anime level of blood loss in a split second.

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[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 29 points 2 days ago (5 children)

So former paramedic of many years. First, pretty graphic, no need to watch if you don’t have to. Second, survivable if he got immediate direct pressure and taken right to a trauma unit for blood and surgery. I haven’t seen footage of after the shot, but I’ve seen people immediately begin to bolt, as most people in the US hearing gun fire expect a mass shooting… that’s a lot different then when I was a young dumb medic years ago.

So if he got direct pressure and was dragged to a vehicle and right to an ER, survivable with probable deficits for the rest of his life.

I also note we’ve heard zero about a dead or captured gunman.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

~~There's footage of an older white male being taken into custody. This specific video is sfw, but part of a thread that is not NSFL.~~

~~I removed the video link because it's too easy to click the wrong one. Screenshot:~~

Edit- Screenshot also removed now, the University spokesman is reporting the man from video was not the shooter.

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

That suspect, the older white male taken into custody, is now being reported as not the shooter.

I can't give a precise source, hopping through live news streams... I think 'KSL News Specialists', they're on the scene at UVU, got a red and white text overlay, not 100% certain that was the one.

But if that is correct and accurate, that would mean the actual shooter is currently unknown and at large, obviously 'armed and dangerous'.

EDIT: Yep, KSL, they just repeated what I said here, original suspect not the shooter, actual shooter would then be at large.

ALSO: Kirk is dead, literally out of Trump's mouth, bunch of news agencies are running it now too.

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump

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[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Appreciate the update. Guess we'll see what shakes out.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

....got more updates in the previous comment.

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[–] Peter_Arbeitslos@feddit.org 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Please extra NSFW for graphical violence. (Video is from close distance)

[–] rozodru@piefed.social 20 points 2 days ago

Ok, I don't condone this but....that was a pretty good shot.

[–] mcbenavides85@piefed.social 10 points 2 days ago

What a terrible shooter. His head is hard to miss.

[–] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Anyone got a mirror? Link is already dead.

[–] Twig@sopuli.xyz 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)
[–] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 days ago

That one worked for me, although I kinda wish it hadn't. Holy fuck. Rest in piss Charlie.

[–] CerineArkweaver@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Hooooly fuck I didn't know blood could flow out of a human like that

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 9 points 2 days ago

I saw a video out of Australia of two big guys trying to beat up a guy who was trying to defend himself with a knife. One of the gets stuck in the neck and dies instantly. It was like watching a real life horror movie.

The internet is a terrible place

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You saw less than a coke bottle of blood, I’ve seen much worse and seen people survive. The key is quickly stopping/slowing the bleeding, getting to blood products to replace the loss, getting to surgery to fix the hole.

The long wars in the middle east actually taught us a lot about fixing this kind of stuff.

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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why did you write "not NSFW"?? Thats very much NSFW...

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[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 days ago

Thanks, this one works. It's graphic, though sadly I've seen worse videos when combat footage from Ukraine was first coming out.

[–] DrDystopia@lemy.lol 14 points 2 days ago

I just checked, it's still up. The link that is.

[–] Twig@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 days ago

Still works for me

Wow, that’s a dead nazi

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Yeah, wish I hadn't watched that.

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