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so let's be real here, do we actually think the epstein files are gonna hurt trump in any way (r.50501.chat)

submitted 15 hours ago by FiftyFiftyOne to c/Mirror

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at this point i’m moreso banking on him kicking the bucket before he can do anymore horrific damage to this country and the maga civil war can begin (yes i know trump is just a figurehead and thiel and heritage foundation blablabla but have you seen how catty these fuckers are with each other? the treasury secretary threatened to punch the housing official in the face today https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/08/us/politics/trump-treasury-bessent-pulte-threat.html i don’t think their master plan is gonna work when they lose the one thing they have in common )

edit: weird how even split this is, especially with the no people seeming to not be fans of elaboration

Originally Posted By u/PhraseFirst8044 At 2025-09-09 06:42:44 PM | Source

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

at this point i’m moreso banking on him kicking the bucket before he can do anymore horrific damage to this country and the maga civil war can begin

I hope not.

Trump's growing senility, being in a bubble, general ignorance to many things and even some altruism 'limit' his authoritarian ceiling, I think.

JD Vance as president does not have that.

He has a freaking brain. He's quite educated. He's smart like the devil, and way more scary TBH. He may not have Trump's party unity or much charisma, but he would inherit a lot of loyalty in the wake of the mourning.

I think the best case is for Trump to survive the term, but end it growing ill/senile, 'with a whimper, not a bang.' That would erode a lot of support without a clean transition or turning him into a martyr.

I hope he does well enough with 'right things for the wrong reasons' like going after Big Fast Food, Big Pharma, hopefully even Big Tech with a change of wind, just enough to dislodge Democrats and force a reformation of their party, but then the sheer weight of the damage hits the public in unignorable ways. I hope the needle gets threaded.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Yeah, James is the scary one.

Most people looking at the situation think Donald has a cult-leader-like sway over his followers. They don't realize that Donald's "followers" are the ones in the driver seat.

Literally since the end of the American Civil War, they've been plotting their revenge. They want to restore white minority rule and slavery. Donald gave voice to their darkest desires.

It's clear when Donald's own audiences booed him for recommending they get Covid vaccines. Twice. He's not in control — he riding the tiger.

If Donald dies tomorrow, James will just step into the vacuum and continue uninterrupted. And undistracted by shiny baubles from tech CEOs.