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Does Microsoft understand anything? At all? They suck at making software, they suck at making operating systems, they suck at making genAI, they suck at making game consoles, they're starting to suck at owning github, what don't they suck at? What part of their business is done better than anyone else? What end user experience is better on an MS product than anywhere else? They have a shittier alternative to literally everything and nothing truly good.
They rock at being the default. As much as I love LibreOffice MS office is probably the best office suite I've used too.
For how good and useful Excel is, it's overbalanced by how utterly fucking dog shit Word is.
Word is when you have a crap and can't seem to wipe yourself fully clean. Word is making a morning coffee and finding the milk has gone bad. If it weren't for the US deciding they'd rather invade the Netherlands than let a single Yank stand trial in the Hague, the entire executive suite of Microsoft would be up on war crimes charges because of Word.
Yeah, like I can't disagree, I've spent hours at work producing decidedly shit documentation (that it's just occurred to me I should probably have done in PowerPoint) but equally I don't think I've ever used a WYSIWYG word processor I'd consider good either (or web design program for that matter).
As someone who is actively moving away from Apple stuff, the hardest thing for me to give up has been Pages. The iPad version is fine, but the Mac version is the GOAT as far as I'm concerned.
But it sucks balls for making anything that needs to be opened on any other editor.
I don't know if you're asking seriously, but if you are the answer is: Enterprise manageability and accountability. There's a reason why every hospital, Fortune 500 corporate campus, military base, supermarket, distribution centre, etc, etc all run Windows workstations. Why would a ruthlessley profit-driven corporation buy expensive Windows licenses when Ubuntu is free? Because when you're dealing with ten thousand workstation in 150 countries, each with own requirements for data protection, working time, employee rights, etc that not only need enforcing, but need to be audited, you can do all that with a single Windows server and a half-motivated sysadmin. And for everyone smaller than that, you still get access to those same tools for your school, office, factory, whatever on your fleet of twenty mismatched laptops from eight different vendors.
Nothing else comes close, and until it does nothing will change. They would all drop Windows in an instant if there was a sensible alternative.
That's the thing though, they would drop it in an instant if there was an alternative. The fact that there's no competition on the OS front is due to conscious efforts on their part to monopolize desktop operating systems because they wouldn't be able to compete if they had competition.
They suck at making everything except money.
That's called a scam artist, and honestly that's not far off at all. They did some sneaky shit to maintain a monopoly.
VSCode
You're talking to a vim user. If you even suggest that a MS product is better I'll go crazy and crush up my own teeth into dust and then put it in my morning breakfast milk to make Teeth Milk (Tilk)
You've been warned.
(It's 6 in the morning and I still haven't slept I'm really sorry about this but this reply seems really funny to me so I'm posting against my better judgement)
I am not going to argue if it is better or worse than vim. I actually use both; they both have strengths and weaknesses imo. I use them for different tasks. I will say though that VSCode is extremely popular for programming and for good reasons. It's a good product, one of the best things Microsoft make.
Out of interest: why vim and not neovim?
And I can't really argue with you cause, I'll be honest with you, I'm an amateur programmer. I actually do use neovim though, I just said vim because it's just more recognizable. Like, that's just kinda the name of this general category of thing. Don't have enough experience to know the difference between the two though (except that vim doesn't clear itself from my terminal when I exit, that's annoying. Oh and the tutor. And the color. But I haven't experimented with any of those cool plug-ins yet...)
In neovim you can have a terminal inside a buffer. So you can have a terminal and your code open side by side like you would in a modern IDE, or emacs for that matter.
ARE YOU SERIOUS RIGHT NOW?? YOU CAN JUST HAVE A TERMINAL ATTACHED TO IT TO DO WHATEVER???? HOW did I not know about this sooner I spent literal hours researching how to best use neovim
That was literally my only problem with cli-based text editors and its just there????
I'm gonna be so fucking powerful now that i know this , thank you you beautiful lemmy user
Edit: I feel like this guy at about 2:00 in this video https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9sv3ydNBfQA
Yeah pretty much. Wait until you hear about termux, screen, or byobu.
See you around.
Looking up that shit IMMEDIATELY
I don't intend to have the tone of some of these other guys; if you like it that's fine, really.
But man, every time I've used VSCode, I cannot help but hate it. It's a mess of a user experience, with anything off the beaten path being community supported via plugins that have different opinions on how they should work.
I'm a nvim user these days, I'm all about extensible tools, but I can redefine how they work if it's not a default I like, so it's always cohesive to me.
Between the full-fat IDEs, I prefer JetBrains by far, but these days I pretty much just use the terminal - it's just faster and it's easy to get it to meet me where I'm at.
I am sure the terminal IDEs are great. I did used to play around with vim myself, and still use it for editing config files. I have had some success with Jet Brains as well. It's a solid product.
I don't really have the energy it takes to configure and learn all the stuff that's needed for a terminal only setup these days. I guess I am just not as discerning as you are. I might try a ready made solution like LazyVim.
Lazy works. I started my config from this repo. It got me up and running well enough with a pretty basic viable config almost immediately with a well documented parts for me to tweak at my leisure as I hit pain points.
But, if you do try it and don't like it, or prefer a G-IDE - at least you tried it. Good luck to you, captain.
Vscode being more accessible than Visual doesn't actually mean anything in the grand scheme of code creation. Both sucks btw.
Yet VSCode is one of the most popular IDEs with many other IDEs being forks of it.
I am amazed this is even remotely controversial. It's one of the few products they make that's actually good. Just tells you how far off the real world most Lemmy users are lol.
Funnily I have been fine with a lot of Microsoft software before, but VSCode was not one of them. Mostly because I'm very picky about something I'll be using all day everyday and for that VSCode has too many issues for my taste.
Yeah editors are largely a matter of taste for some people. I won't say VSCode is perfectly to my taste. The issue is it's easy to use and works with just about every language, tool, and environment I need it to. Like I would probably prefer Zed or Neovim in some areas. Zed won't work on one of my machines properly for some unknown reason. Neovim would require too much tweaking and learning before it could be useful. Even then I couldn't guarantee I would actually be as productive as VSCode since not all the same tools are available. It might not work in every project I end up working on.
Essentially I have given up perfection in pursuit of convenience. If you have the time, patience, and the certainly of what you are working on then other IDEs and tooling can be much more tailored to you.
Their computer mice are pretty good quality, but I don't know if they are the best.