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I don't find "the orphan grinder technicians would need to find new jobs" a very compelling argument, but I imagine the orphan grinder technicians and their families do.
We should probably have basic income and stronger social programs, too. But we have a republican party that would rather die of measles than see their outgroup have one iota of comfort.
Also, "it would be expensive to improve our quality of life, so let's leave the nightmare in place" is a bonkers view.
But maybe this is the important part. An argument for who? I think most of the people who oppose single payer health care are doing so for emotional reasons, so facts and charts won't compel them. They might lie to you and themselves about how the money doesn't work out, but those are lies.