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[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's not hypocritical if you are providing affordable housing for someone.

Despite the kneejerk hate towards landlords lately, which is largely justified due to the extreme levels of rent-seeking behavior evident in today's completely unaffordable rental market, affordable rental housing is actually a legitimate market and there needs to be availability to meet that demand. Renting on its own is not a crime. Some people even prefer it. It can provide significantly more flexibility and less responsibility, stress and hassle, at a lower monthly cost than home ownership IF (and ONLY IF) you have a good landlord, either because they choose to be or because the laws require them to be, which is not so much the case with most of the laws.

So for me those are the dividing lines. If you are not:

  • A slumlord providing "affordable" rental housing by leaving your tenants in unsafe, unsanitary, and unmaintained properties.
  • Demanding luxury-priced rents for an extremely modest property with no features that can be considered a luxury and no intention of maintaining anything to luxurious standards.

Then maybe it's not hypocritical. And I don't mean just taking the highest price you can find on rentfaster and posting your property for that price because "that's what the market price is" I mean actually thinking about whether that price you're asking is actually affordable for real human beings living in your area.

Basically, if you treat your tenants like actual human beings with the understanding they may be struggling to get by, trying to raise a family, working as much as they can even when work is not reliable, and dealing with all life throws at them, and you don't treat these things as immediately evictable offenses like a battleaxe over their head just waiting to drop, then yes, you absolutely can argue for a cause like affordable housing for everyone -- because you are helping provide it.

If, after contributing to legitimate maintenance expenses and reserves, you are making a tiny profit, barely breaking even or even losing money renting, good. If you are treating it as a cash cow that funds your entire life, fuck you.

[–] joonazan@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Maybe it is different elsewhere but according to my calculations, renting property is not very profitable. Investing in stocks is better if you only want to make money and do not care about the apartment otherwise.

You can't easily get your money out of the property and if loan rates go up, you pay more and the property value goes down.

The real parasite is the bank who takes a cut but has little risk as the money it lends out is created from thin air.

[–] pyr0ball@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

That's not at all how interest rates work on homes... They're fixed and yes while fluctuations in interest rates can have an effect on the home value, that won't change how much your mortgage payments are, and can only effect your property taxes by at most 2% per year

Rent doesn't have to fluctuate with interest rates at all as it's up to the home owner

Edit: unless you're in a variable rate interest loan in which case, yeah your lender is screwing you

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Even if your costs only break even, you’re building equity

Often the difference in profitability is whether you pay for a property manager or do the work yourself

I know a couple people who did it and made money, fwiw. They gave up so they didn’t have to deal with people