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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 57 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (9 children)

Generally it was just a term of abuse from Clinton supporters, but I also heard it a few times from leftists who were disappointed by the failure of many Bernie supporters to decouple from toxic masculinity in the process of veering leftwards. This was not entirely untrue - Bernie energized many ordinary young folks without changing their upbringing or prejudices. There was a nonzero contingent of Bernie supporters who were all onboard with left economic policy, but saw matters like racial justice, LGBT rights, or women's issues as 'divisive' or 'irrelevant' compared to Bernie's economic leftism.

On average, though, Bernie supporters were considerably to the left of the Dem Party in general on social issues, so the actual applicability of the term was extremely limited compared to its usage as a general term of abuse.

Christ. Remembering marching in Philly chanting Black Lives Matter in 2016... we were so full of hope back then.

[–] A_Wild_Alt_Appears@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 2 weeks ago

That's all very true, though I do think bernies approach of modeling socially progressive ideology through action and actually standing up for folks, while advocating policy that would help change systems of oppression, would have been infinitlely more effective at reaching people than the preachy hollow "CEO girlboss" identity politics of neo-libralism has pivoted towards

Which I think has mostly just done a lot of harm without accomplishing much good, and massively fed the current exclusionary social movement (that is currently seeking to frame minorities as the root of all societal woes and stamp us out of existence)

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