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Generally it was just a term of abuse from Clinton supporters, but I also heard it a few times from leftists who were disappointed by the failure of many Bernie supporters to decouple from toxic masculinity in the process of veering leftwards. This was not entirely untrue - Bernie energized many ordinary young folks without changing their upbringing or prejudices. There was a nonzero contingent of Bernie supporters who were all onboard with left economic policy, but saw matters like racial justice, LGBT rights, or women's issues as 'divisive' or 'irrelevant' compared to Bernie's economic leftism.
On average, though, Bernie supporters were considerably to the left of the Dem Party in general on social issues, so the actual applicability of the term was extremely limited compared to its usage as a general term of abuse.
Christ. Remembering marching in Philly chanting Black Lives Matter in 2016... we were so full of hope back then.
So you're saying it wasn't only abuse from the Clinton supporters, but it was also a result of purity tests. And we keep wondering why the left keeps failing...
Mostly abuse from Clinton supporters, but yes, there were some purity testers to the left.
Back to it. Strongly disagree. Just take a look at this place. It's a giant purity test.
Lemmy is representative of a nonzero percentage of the American electorate.
It's also not a proportionate representation of the American electorate.
This place is left purity tests galore, though not as bad as it initially was. The American electorate in general - including those slinging the accusation of 'Bernie Bro' around - were mostly not left purists.
you’re saying these things about all bernie supporters like you really dug into it but you’re just repeating the same stuff….
it wasn’t just Clinton supporters, the DNC email leaks showed that there was a full on democratic party conspiracy to smear him in this way…
fact is, more women supported him than men, and yes you can find a slice of shitty interviews with supporters of any candidate but it was a lie…
his supporters were younger, louder, and more enthusiastic… but the corporations decided clinton was better for them so that’s what we got and how we got trump….
the DNC also conspired against him and made Biden win the nomination the next election…
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That's all very true, though I do think bernies approach of modeling socially progressive ideology through action and actually standing up for folks, while advocating policy that would help change systems of oppression, would have been infinitlely more effective at reaching people than the preachy hollow "CEO girlboss" identity politics of neo-libralism has pivoted towards
Which I think has mostly just done a lot of harm without accomplishing much good, and massively fed the current exclusionary social movement (that is currently seeking to frame minorities as the root of all societal woes and stamp us out of existence)
This is the most I've ever agreed with you in the year since I've been arguing with you.
There is no war but the class war. Everything else is a distraction to divide us. If saying that makes me a bigot to (the metaphorical) you, I’m not the one who is the problem.