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[–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

told men don't feel, don't love, don't care

Yes, that's what feminists mean when we speak of toxic masculinity. Societal enforcement of rigid gender roles are bad for women and men.

This is basic, foundational stuff in modern feminism.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today -5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

So why is it the self-proclaimed feminists in here who are pushing back the hardest on anon’s claims?

You’d think they would embrace this as evidence that #NotAllMen are violent and sexist, yet they’re fighting me tooth and nail on it.

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

MacNCheezus comes to in a pool of blood and straw.... shaking his head to regain focus, he stands up ready for another round.

You. Will. Not. Defeat. Me. Straw. Man.

I am the hero incels deserve

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today -2 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Explain how feminism helps men achieve positive behavioral change if it systematically discards any evidence of their capacity for such.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

That's not feminism. That's sexism, which yes, can also come from self-proclaimed "feminists". In fact, an entire wave of "feminism" was established on the idea of hating on men because it was at a time when women had to be quite outspoken to be heard at all.

Though in modern times, anyone seriously saying "all men bad" is just being an ignorant sexist regardless of their proclaimed beliefs. Don't feed in to their BS by treating them as paragons of feminism. They're just haters who do not understand that feminism needs to include lifting up good men and enabling them to open up.

[–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 8 hours ago

Explain how feminism helps men achieve positive behavioral change if it systematically discards any evidence of their capacity for such.

There's plenty of feminist literature about raising compassionate, empathetic, loving sons.

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Explain how exercise helps men achieve fitness if it causes them to spontaneously combust.

How can exercise be helpful if it's setting people on fire?

Given that exercise harms people: how is it helpful?

Explain that.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

And here you are accusing me of strawmanning…

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 1 points 7 hours ago

you're so close push through the pain