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[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 109 points 1 day ago (2 children)

IMO, Intel is circling the drain and will die without intervention. And their death will have some pretty crazy ramifications.

If the US had competent leaders, they’d realize Intel was important to global security, and they’d come up with some sort of way to break up the fab and design business.

No one wants to send their designs to Intel’s fab because they don’t want Intel to copy their homework. That’s why Intel’s design competitors use TSMC. And TSMC scales faster because of increased money and experience.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Trump's 100% tariffs on chips made outside the USA is puzzling. It it an attempt to force Intel, who do make chips in the USA, to become more competitive just through bullying everyone? Or does he know it will just cause more trouble and is he trying to drive Intel into the ground for revenge because they took Biden's money? Why is he also demanding that Intel's CEO resign? Does none of it make sense because Trump is a crazy old narcissist who has lost touch with reality and is now losing his mind?

[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump loooves to take action. Coherent plan or direction is irrelevant.

Good luck US, still some to go.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago

Point 3 of Umberto Eco’s traits of ur-fascism.

Irrationalism also depends on the cult of action for action’s sake. Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation. Therefore culture is suspect insofar as it is identified with critical attitudes. Distrust of the intellectual world has always been a symptom of Ur-Fascism, from Goering’s alleged statement (“When I hear talk of culture I reach for my gun”) to the frequent use of such expressions as “degenerate intellectuals,” “eggheads,” “effete snobs,” “universities are a nest of reds.” The official Fascist intellectuals were mainly engaged in attacking modern culture and the liberal intelligentsia for having betrayed traditional values.

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

The tariff thing just shows that Trump doesn’t understand why people use TSMC. TSMC doesn’t have a brand of chips that they sell, and they can’t copy your designs.

Companies don’t manufacture with Intel because Intel isn’t just their manufacturer, it’s their competitor. Also, Intel’s fab is now behind the curve. It literally can’t manufacture some of the shit Apple and Nvidia want.

Trump sees a rash and is prescribing cortisone cream. But the skin irritation is from melanoma.

[–] AngryPancake@sh.itjust.works 10 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

There's no way politicians will let one of the most important chip manufacturers die. If push comes to shove, they'll get subsidies

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 38 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

.... Have you seen the competence of the politicians on display in the US right now?

[–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

sure, but if the us doesn't china will.

[–] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 17 hours ago

China will subsidize Intel?

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

Didn't the orange one threaten tsmc to buy 49% of Intel or will get higher tariffs?

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Probably not, but these morons will probably wait until too much damage is done. They’re shortsighted AF.