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It is a war industry for the Western countries because the war is never on their soil. It is a defence industry for everyone else.
yeah russia sure is defending the shit out of itself invading ukraine.
I get it, western countries bad, but for fucks sake have a bit of perspective.
Yep NATO expansion and coups can go on just so far.
They knew ukraine was a red line bcs NATO nukes there are too close to defend from.
And they are actually defending not only themselves but also the ethnic Russian (ex)ukrainians since nobody in the west cared when the US funded trained and armed the fascists that terrorised them for 8 years. Maybe you get some perspective, I can hear your propaganda nonsense every day in any western MSN.
lol, russia invading has gassed nato expansion to countries that never considered it before. Putin's a better recruiter for NATO than anyone else.
yes, hence the budapest memorandum, where RUSSIA GUARANTEED UKRAINE'S SECURITY IN EXCHANGE FOR THEIR NUKES, YOU GODDAMN DOLT.
sure thing, kremlin mouthpiece. how much do they pay you for suborning your own country? chode
NATO expansionism is the root cause of this war. NATO instigated this war and Russia got baited.
ROFLS you really believe that huh?
even after russia guaranteed ukraine's security in the budapest memorandum?
wow. amazing.
LOL
There hasn't been a ukraine since the fascist coup where the US regime literally chose who would run that proxy state.
And then broke the Minsk treaties over and over
tell that to the people who whipped THE EVERLOVING SHIT OUT OF THE RUSSIAN ARMY AND HAVE HOLLOWED OUT THE ENTIRE RESERVE OF POST SOVIET ARMS STORED LOLOLOLOLOL
you fucking morons have strategically positioned yourself to be invaded by china, and no one is going to come to your aid. lol
gonna block you now, moron.
LOL I'm Belgian.
Got you all in a frenzy I see, unstable as expected
So did USA.
The US invaded Ukraine?
Sorry, that didn't happen.
No, but they did promise protection. So far, there has been no protection given, only money.
Problem with talking about USA in this conflict is everytime immediately assumes that anyone accusing USA of anything is automatically supporting Russia.
just tons and tons of ordinance, from the javelins that stopped the taking of Kiev to the artillery, apcs, aircraft and munitions for everything from autocannons to patriots, yeah, no protection whatsoever.
problem with talking about USA in this conflict are the spineless fucks who keep undermining our support to appease PUTIN. Ukraine deserves more, but we're stymied by the kompromised members of our government.
LOL what a joke
such an outstanding reply, loaded with insight and wisdom.
a belgian quisling... now that's fuckin funny
That's my whole point, only money has been given. US troops should have been deployed to Ukraine.
LOL sure start WW3, smart
what fuckin part about
didn't you comprehend pardner? too many big words?
Oh and I assume you're gonna sign up because otherwise you're just volunteering other people's kids for combat. for that matter, why didn't you go? you can go today if you have such a hardon for getting into the fight.
https://www.ildu.com.ua/
something tells me you won't, and tells me you probably never served a moment before this either.
Let's not get into who should go and who should not. It is pointless. US has been deploying troops worldwide since decades, they can easily deploy some in Ukraine but they don’t want to.
two seconds ago you were saying:
what, did your balls shrivel up the moment someone suggested you get up off your ass and help? fucking pogue.
You are missing the point. I am saying let's not talk about which individual US persons should go to fight.
Why? Why are you fine with sending US soldiers to die in europe, but unwilling to volunteer your own skin?
Because I am not from the US...
UK? Some nazi Baltic, Fin?
Where do suicidal warmongering idiots wanting WW3 come from?
Silly vatnik, get your kremlin talking points right.
To the last ukrainian as Lindsey Graham or even Soros in 93' said.
The US doesn't care about their sucker proxies when they have served their use.
Just like the Kurds and many others.
lol. only took one comment. Scratch a tankie and a vatnik bleeds?
Better red than a dirty fascist.
You wolfsangel and swastika wearers will go down the way your granpa's went the first time.
I'll bite. In the 5 years leading up to Russia invading Ukraine, what did NATO do that warrants such a move by Russia?
The US/UK NATO have been supporting nazis since WW2.
Operation Aerodynamic specifically for ukraine to cause trouble.
It has always been a strategy and a goal to hurt Russia who they never forgave for beating their fascists.
The horrible Brezinksky doctrine of the US regime followed that line.
" “Even without the Baltic states and Poland, a Russia that retained control over Ukraine could still seek to be the leader of an assertive Eurasian empire.... But without Ukraine and its 52 million fellow Slavs, any attempt by Moscow to rebuild the Eurasian empire was likely to leave Russia entangled alone in protracted conflicts with the nationally and religiously aroused non-Slavs"
From 2014 when they fist tried regime change with the horrible Yuchenko:
The Stratfor news web site, which has close links to the American intelligence apparatus, revived this analysis following the recent struggle for power in Ukraine. In an analysis of recent events, Stratfor concludes that the secession of Ukraine not only weakens Moscow with regard to foreign policy, but also, “without Ukraine, Russia’s political, economic and military survivability are called into question.” The Stratfor report continues: “To say Russia is at a turning point is a gross understatement. Without Ukraine, Russia is doomed to a painful slide into geopolitical obsolescence and ultimately, perhaps even non-existence.”
After that the people voted this puppet out since they knew they had been conned.
After which the US sent billions via NED and other ways to destabilise the country and fund fascists.
This led to the coup.
The war is never on their soil? WW1 and 2 and Yugoslavia ring a bell? And Ukraine is a western country too.
They predict that Russia will attack western Europe in 2027, by the way.
We are talking about the war/defence industry which is a much newer thing when countries started selling weapons and such to other countries on a large scale and during their own non-war times, like the last 50 years of American history. If countries sold weapons to each other during WW2, it was because they were involved in the war themselves. Nowadays, it is just selling weapons and watching others burn each other down.
Predictions have been going on since forever about so many things. Doesn't make it any truer. China is going to annex Taiwan, Russia is going to attack Europe, Iran is weeks away from nukes. Funnily, there are no predictions about USA doing stuff.
LOL