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[–] cynar@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (5 children)

For safety, the BS1363 (UK, type G) is by far the best.

  • It's fused. (Seriously why the hell aren't all plugs fused!)

  • Live and neutral can't be reversed.

  • Holes are gated (so no kids sticking spoons in).

  • High capacity, 240V at 13A gives 3kW of power.

It's only real downside is its size.

[–] umfk@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Fusing plugs is completely unnecessary. The only reason this is done in the UK is because of old janky circuits only used in the UK.

[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 day ago

So still necessary in the UK

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Wrong, it's fused because in the UK they have 32A 240V circuits, a fuse is important when dealing with that much current. In Australia we only have 16A 240V circuits as standard so there is no need for a fuse.

[–] umfk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

They have fuses because of their ring circuits from after WW2. You're the one who's wrong.

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Type E/F carries 16A/230V, and nowadays there are shutters included which only allow two pins to be inserted at once, not one but not the other. There's no standard as of which pin should be L1 and neutral anyway, nor it should matter, and fuses in british plugs are to accommodate ring circuits, which were introduced as a result of copper shortages (ie decades of tech debt)

[–] Surp@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Type B also does this now with the shutters.

[–] uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago

G is held in place only by the pins, isn't it? It'd be safer if it was nestled like Type F

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Using fuses on outlets is fake security. You can put two 10A devices on a circuit, and the fuses won't help. What's important is that you have fuses for each line.

All socket holes here are gated, too (Type F), but I have to admit there are grandfathered ones without gates in older installations. And we have 16A @ 240V.

I have to admit that the idea of switches in each outlet is in principle a good one, but it makes the outlet way larger than other types, and adds extra complications that can break (yes, I had to fight with one like this in the UK).

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The fuses aren't to protect the circuit, they protect the end and intermediate devices. The breakers protect the actual circuit.

E.g. you've got a thin flex for a low power lamp. You don't have to worry about a short allowing 40A to flow down a 2A cable.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

How many cheap import lamps do have an appropriate fuse?

And the short circuit 40A is better covered by a fast-acting breaker.

[–] Sivecano@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's not inset meaning that an improperly plugged in plug becomes a hazard.

[–] havocpants@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Not true, the pins are sleeved so if it is improperly plugged in, you still can't touch live parts.

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 3 points 1 day ago

bases of pins are insulated, like in type C/E/F