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i absolutely hate how the modern web just fails to load if one has javascript turned off. i, as a user, should be able to switch off javascript and have the site work exactly as it does with javascript turned on. it's not a hard concept, people.

but you ask candidates to explain "graceful degradation" and they'll sit and look at you with a blank stare.

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[โ€“] Azzu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The web interface can already be reloaded at any time and has to do all of this. You seem to be missing we're talking about degradation here, remember the definition of the word, it means it isn't as good as when JS is enabled. The point is it should still work somehow.

[โ€“] Pika@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Just to make sure we are on the same page then, cause I don't see the issue with my post.

I am using the term "Graceful Degradation" which is meant as a fault tolerance for tech stacks to allow for a critical component to be removed.

This critical component people are talking about is Javascript which is used for all dynamically loaded content, and used for fallover protection so one service going down doesn't make it so the entire page goes down (also an example of fault tolerance).

The proposed solution given would remove that fault tolerance for the reasons I provided in the original reply, while degrading the users experience due to increased page load time (users reloading the page inconsistently vs consistently to get new information) and increasing maintenance costs and overhead on the provider.

Additionally, the new processing system that you mentioned already exists generally doesn't, because they(websites) mostly use a dynamic load style nowadays, not a static(as in the client doesn't change it) page, which is what this type of system would require.

note: edits were for phrasing, and a typo