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The next time you hear someone say they're just vibing in life without a job, just look at this image.
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World has always been fucked (see Billy Joel's "we didn't start the fire" for simple reference). Life is what you make of it
We've had a habitable wilderness for all of human existence until now. Dystopian society is now The only option for living in most of the planet. World has not always been this fucked.
Edit: if you're not convinced, actuaries are predicting 2 billion climate deaths at +2C warming (we're at 1.7C now) and 4 billion deaths at 3C, which is the absolute minimum we're in for assuming we stopped all emissions tomorrow. Obviously that's not happening, so it's going to be way worse than that. Our existing billions of people also depend on a complex web of logistics systems which are currently falling apart or being dismantled. Google "complexity collapse."
One of you can have my ration. I'm not gonna fight you for it.
The Antarctic used to have a giant ozone hole. In the late 1960's, Lake Erie was dead from pollution. The Cuyahoga River in Ohio was so polluted it caught fire. Rain was so acidic that statues in cities were dissolving.
Read history instead of following social media hype. Despite Trump turning back the clock a few years, the environment has improved dramatically over the past 50 years.
Those examples you mention are pretty insignificant compared to the global warming crisis we are experiencing now. Reading history won't really help, because we have never faced what we have faced now in human history: manmade global warming in an industrialised, highly specialised society.
50 years ago most waterways in the US were so polluted as to be dead to wildlife. Cities buildings were black with pollution.
Global warming is actually minor compared to the immediate death people were facing decades ago. For example unchecked ozone depletion could have resulted in the destruction of all rice crops on Earth. An analogy that comes to mind is the Black Plague vs Covid. It's not that Covid wasn't (isn't) a problem. And like Covid we are deploying modern technology to fix the problems. Solar is being installed everywhere. The US is going backwards temporarily. But the US isn't the world. Europe and China are getting things done.
People who see the problems are the absolutely not the ones who should be killing themselves. They're the only ones that can contribute to the future.
Difference is that, those problems had relatively easier solution which was being worked on. This does not hold for global warming, we are not even trying!
Honestly, it's pathetic that you try to look at things rose-tinted. Is it that hard to accept imminent crisis?
It required global cooperation to ban CFC's and restore the ozone layer. It required destroying large corporations so the the rivers could be clean again. These things were done and can continue to be done.
Absolutely not true. 1.08 terawatts of power are solar in China. 1.6Terrawatts in US. 107.6 GW in Germany. France has always been Nuclear. Massive EV adoption in China and Europe.
I grew up in the 1970's when you couldn't swim or fish in the rivers. The city was filthy, and not in today's sanitized "oh there's some trash". Every surface in the city was covered in black grime. Moths in cities evolved into black variations because cities weren't white concrete- they were black grime. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peppered_moth_evolution
Statues were crumbling from acid rain.
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The world is so much cleaner than 50 years ago.
This is what has been done recently:
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Past improvements don't mean we need to stop!
Fine. Until relatively recently, like before mass industrialization.
Your premise is that it's going to get a lot worse. But the past 50 years has been improving. It's therefore reasonable to believe we will keep improving.
That is silly logic.
Also the past 50 years has not been all improvement, the global warming crisis has steadily grown worse to name the most obvious. The economic crisis following the results of that global warming is also just going to get worse. This will lead to more political crises as politics will get steadily radicalised and authoritarian.
I grew up next to the Cuyahoga in the '70s and I don't think people today could even begin to understand how nasty it really was. Old tires everywhere, rusting steel barrels full of god knows what, and a thick oily scum over any part of it that wasn't moving. Factories along the edge had big drainage pipes that just emptied directly into the river (one of these factories made Oasis foam, that green shit florists stick flowers into). The real shocker was not that the river caught fire from time to time, but that it wasn't on fire all the time.
This is a local observance and an expression of your privilege. That trashed environment didn't disappear or get rectified, the pollution and heavily polluting industries necessary to support our lifestyles were offshored and exported to poor countries.
What makes now a million times worse than the 70s is the immense global destruction of habitat that had only started gaining serious momentum in the 70s.
Here's another local observance: you're a pompous windbag.
I'm still waiting for somebody to make a mashup of Billy Joel's "We Didn't Start the Fire" and The Prodigy's "Firestarter".
And I can't make anything of it so I'm leaving