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[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 43 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

Yay, more space junk, and knowing Google they would abandon the whole thing a couple years in when it gets boring and leave them to rot.

Edit:not actually sat, which makes it weird to call a 'starlink competitor' then, but I don't write the headlines.

[–] pelya@lemmy.world 33 points 11 hours ago (2 children)
  • They split off from Google.

  • They are not using satellites, they shine a lazer from one fixed tower to another, with range about 20 km.

[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 16 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Ah, see that's where not reading is a problem. Just saw star link competitor and remembered something a recently about China looking to launch a similar system.

Odd they would phrase it as a 'starlink competitor' then though rather than 'a new ISP bid'. Wireless systems with directional antenna relays are not really new, not sure if any use laser particularly but the concept is essentially the same.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 hours ago

Still raking in the upvotes though! Reading is for suckers!

[–] Geodad@lemm.ee 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

That sounds similar to WiMax.

[–] pelya@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

Yup. Now we have long-range WiFi filling that niche.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 11 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

At sufficiently low orbits, the satellites would simply deorbit themselves because of the atmospheric drag. Several Starlink sats have been lost this way.

[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 4 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, more thinking the wasted time, resources, and emissions involved in building, launching, managing, and then whenever makes it down.

Take all that and make something useful instead, whatever happened to Google fiber being built out all over? More reliable, faster, doesn't involve sending piles of redundant satellites into space...

[–] popcap200@lemmy.ml 6 points 12 hours ago

Supposedly traditional ISP's have tons and tons of lawyers and filed every single step of the way to stop Google from intruding on their local monopolies.

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 5 points 12 hours ago

I think the existing telecoms tied them up in mountains of legal bullshit.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 1 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Wasn't starlink damaging the ozone layer as well?

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

I don't know about the ozone layer specifically, but reentry turns the satellite into danger dust -- mostly metal oxides and burnt polymers. Ozone, being a very strong oxidizer, is the most likely to react with the hot debris, so it probably does damage the ozone layer, but I can't quantify the damage, or the released pollutants.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

When they say "burn up on reentry" they don't mean disintegrate, they mean burn. It's exactly like throwing thousands of home entertainment systems in a fire except that the pollution is in the upper atmosphere where normal pollution doesn't reach.

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 hours ago

Perfectly Safe(c) until proven* otherwise!

- every polluter ever

*Hope you have good lawyers and deep pockets

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 1 hour ago

It was more they're worried it would, because of the sheer scale of metallic satellites that would be burning up in the upper atmosphere