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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (38 children)

I'm curious - what do you think I'm trying to accomplish?

[–] Brotha_Jaufrey@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (30 children)

There’s some good in what you’re doing, which is creating awareness to the issue of what’s going on currently. But this blaming of a very small group of people, using hindsight mind you, isn’t helping us get any further from fascism.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world -2 points 4 days ago (28 children)

Is it really hindsight if it's exactly what I was saying before it happened, and what anyone with half a working eye could see was going to happen?

Ultimately, it is, from an objective standpoint, a small proportion of the US that thinks like this. A larger amount is influenced by it.

But we also work in the communities we are in - in Lemmy, this thinking remains widespread. I mean, fuck, look down this comment thread.

Ultimately, my goal is more to highlight that allowing fascism because you really want to teach the shitlibs a lesson is not acceptable. Not 'not acceptable' in the sense that it's a bad thing to do, though it is. "Not acceptable" as in "people who do it should not be treated as friends or comrades".

I grew up in a conservative area. It's exactly the same dynamic as conservatives with their liberal friends. Their liberal friends will always, continously asspat them for their 'economic anxiety', and the conservatives will keep getting worse - because there are no social consequences. Not a cold shoulder, not even a rebuke. But the fact is, voting for my death, and the death of millions of others, out of some sense of internal purity of the soul, is not the action of anyone who should be welcomed into decent society. It must be highlighted that this is absolutely a grotesque and vile (in)action, and that the cold shoulder is the appropriate response - not giving them asspats for their 'moral principles' in murdering millions.

When people suffer no pushback from their social circles - or worse, encouragement - for their actions, they begin to see their actions like a game. It's part of the reason why the GOP has radicalized so much since the 90s - liberals give no pushback, not on the national stage, and not in their communities. You're still invited for the barbecue after voting to murder John's trans cousin. You're still invited to the Christmas dinner after voting to deport Tim's wife. "It's just politics". And for an online community which rejects that particularly grotesque charade, they seem eager to repeat it if "It's just 'left' politics", with everything from supporting Uyghur genocide to enabling a Trump victory.

There's no difference between the two - other than that left (or 'left') politics are more rare in America's meatland. And it shouldn't be passed over that that's so.

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