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[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago (3 children)

If you don’t try to change anything, of course the awful “moderates” stay in charge.

Trying to change thing is exactly what the Uncommitted movement tried to do. And while they failed to move the needle in the 2024 election, in 2028, the Democrats will have to think a lot more about whether they want to keep losing in exchange for supporting genocide.

Remember, it's always "the most important election ever." Every election is billed as that. But sometimes you need to be willing to accept a short-term loss in exchange for long-term progress. Myopically focusing on just the election right in front of you is how we got into this mess in the first place.

Kamala losing gave space for someone like Mamdani to win. It's clear that corporate DNC centrism is a toxic losing brand. If Kamala had won, it is extremely unlikely that Mamdani would have won the NYC primary.

[–] svtdragon@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Every election since I could vote (early 2000s) has been the most important.

Why? Because the results built the Supreme Court that curtailed every progressive policy achievement and accelerated our current descent into fascism.

Without GWB you don't have Roberts or Alito. Without Trump you don't have Gorsuch, Cavanaugh, or Barrett.

Those fuckers have lifetime appointments. One lost election sets us back decades. The only good time for a protest vote is the primary.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Literal accelerationism. Jesus fucking Christ.

[–] Korne127@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

Trying to change thing is exactly what the Uncommitted movement tried to do

Where did I say anything bad about them? It was about the primary and not about the general election.

I actually get your point in theory as you could see elections in a game theory type of setting. The problem is that the last elections have been "the most important election ever" because well… they have gotten increasingly more significant and important. 2016 allowed Trump to shift the Supreme Court long-term and change decades-old consensus. It alone almost got him to do a coup. 2020 could have very well literally enabled that, and 2024 well… just look at everything that is happen. This is not the beginning of fascism, that's well some steps inside.

I get the theory, and if the opponent was a McCain I could even understand your thought. But if it's the election of 1930, where every vote counts to defeat the bigger evil, it's not the time to sit it out for future benefits.