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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

And what is the difference between them winning and losing? I’ve been voting for them for years and hating it every time and getting nothing but excuses.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Because they haven't actually won in a long ass time. Aside from the few months in 2012 that gave us the ACA, it's been nothing but ties or Republican wins since the Bill Clinton days.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A political party that can't get power should be destroyed.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The political parties are not fucking sports teams who go out there and play and either win or lose. You vote for them, or don't, and they consequently win, or don't.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And isn’t the first job of a political party to win those votes and hence the election?

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Do you even know what a political party is? It's not some company that you pay to provide you a service. It's not some big vending machine where you put in x and are disappointed you didn't receive y.

A political party is a group of people, largely volunteers, trying to convince people of their agendas.

You're trying to purchase a victory for Dems with your vote but it doesn't work like that. You're treating it like you're in line at McDonald's ordering a burger but getting cat food and now you storm in waving your receipt and want to talk to the manager.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Right, and they’re trying to convince people about their agendas to try to win elections, right?

I don’t expect it to happen like a transaction. But I do expect the very expensive political consultants who the party employs to at least win something.

If a political party is as bad as the democrats at winning and keeping power, what’s the damn point beyond employing very expensive and ineffective political consultants?

The democrats have been failures my entire life, and I still vote for them. I still donate and I even volunteered. And all my efforts are for naught because the party is terrible at doing the first thing it needs to do: Win votes.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But I do expect the very expensive political consultants who the party employs to at least win something.

It's NOT A SPORTS MATCH jeesus man why can you not grasp this

It's not some external thing that happens or doesn't. Christ civics education is in the toilet in this country.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why do you think I think it’s a sports match? Let me spell it out for you really clearly/

  1. The point of a political party is to influence elections so they can gain power, right?
  2. Democrats consistently fail at this, regardless of how much money is thrown at them.
  3. Therefore they are not good at doing the first job of a political party
[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

So do more than just throw money at them?

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And what is the difference between them winning and losing?

Are you fucking joking?

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I’m frustrated. Democrats win and don’t get anything done because of republicans and then lose and don’t bother resisting the republicans.

Republicans make things worse, of course , but democrats don’t or can’t make things better.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I’m frustrated.

Of course you are. As am I. But that doesn't mean I'm willing to just "give up." Yes I'll vote against Trump at all chance even if it means I'll lose. Because I may not.

I don't want a leader who is fucking exciting or a firebrand. I just want a competent administrator who treats the nation as something to be preserved. And that's a hard sell against a cheap auto-salesman like Trump.

Republicans make things worse, of course , but democrats don’t or can’t make things better.

But those are the only two options. So you pick a democrat and hope for the best.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

If the democrats are the best we can hope for then we are well and truly boned.

And how much longer am I gonna have to hold my nose and vote for an asshole I hate before they get enough power to mean I don’t have to?

Will I be dead before I can actually vote for someone I want to be in office? And even then will they have a stroke and start schlonging conservative dick?

Politics is a game designed to be so infuriating that most people rage quit.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is why MAGA is winning. Even they aren't this stupid.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I’ve been doing the “smart thing” and voting blue in every election and writing y representatives and it clearly hasn’t worked.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So obviously the solution is to stop.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It clearly isn’t helping, so why not save myself the ulcer?

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If doing the right thing is giving you an ulcer, maybe you ARE voting for the wrong party. MAGA might suit you better.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What's giving me an ulcer is me doing the right thing and everybody else fucking it up and things continuing to get worse despite me doing what everyone says I should. It's not working, it hasn't been working, and it will continue to not work while the country and planet go down the tubes.

Better people than you have called me MAGA because I hate the Democrats for being complete fuckups

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Who the fuck are YOU to think that "boo hoo I voted correctly why didn't it work??" It's a goddamn democracy. Your vote alone is a drop in the ocean. You have to convince others as well.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why the hell should someone with no political experience, no money, and a life to lead take this on when there is ostensibly an existing organization whose job it is to do this? What then hell do they do with all that money we send them?

[–] CMonster@discuss.online 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Do you feel better trying to drag everyone else down into your self pity?

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes, actually. It’s feels good to stop pretending.

[–] CMonster@discuss.online 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Pretending that we have a functioning, representative government that is accountable to the people