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[–] CallMeButtLove@lemmy.world 93 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I can't answer that question but I've always wondered why anyone switches to Brave. I installed it a few years ago because I heard it was privacy focused and it immediately hit me with a bunch of shit about crypto and rewards or something. I uninstalled it immediately.

[–] brown_guy45@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It does respect your privacy but it comes with bloatware. You can actually remove them pretty easily

[–] grue@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Respect" for you as the user means you shouldn't have to do stuff like that in the first place.

[–] wieli99@sh.itjust.works 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Eh, gotta make money somehow. I prefer this over selling out to google

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 hours ago

it only makes money until people don't actually remove the bloatware. so if it does make money, that's telling something

[–] Gerudo@lemmy.zip -3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I installed it. Crypto stuff is off by default. Ad blocking built in. Multiple 3rd party testing shows it blocks virtually all tracking/fingerprinting.

Firefox/Chrome - you need all kinds of addons and pihole type setups to do the same thing. God forbid you want to use it off your own network, you need additional tools. All these tools break with updates, whether they are the browsers or addons/tools themselves. Brave has never once broken its adblock/privacy settings in the years I've used it.

Most of us on here are privacy focused, and want the average user to be that way too. Brave is a one click setup, nothing else needed solution. Is it perfect? Hell no. Is the owner a piece of shit? Hell yes. Does it allow the average user to take ownership of their privacy in an easy and non-technical way? Yes. Perfect is the enemy of good. I will gladly jump ship once another turnkey solution comes along that is as easy and privacy centric that Brave is.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Firefox/Chrome - you need all kinds of addons and pihole type setups to do the same thing.

bullshit

you need a single addon, ublock origin. enable additional builtin blocklists according to taste.
you can have additional addons for additional functionality. does brave have libredirect built in? does it block and redirect google AMP sites by default? does it have a feature to only delete cookies regularly for specific sites?

and let's not forget the elephant in the room: ublock is not working anymore in chrome! google made it so that you can only use the inferior lite version, that can only load much much fewer filtering rules into the browser.
I don't know if brave kept supporting mv2 extensions, but if they do, I guarantee to you that it won't be that way for long. it has been relatively easy sailing so far because google did not actually remove support, but it will be lots of work when finally google does remove it, and they'll be needing to patch it in for every new version

pihole is not used for firefox, and that's never been its use case. It's for everything else that uses the internet, but cannot have something like ublock origin: various software, windows itself, android and apps there, smart home and iot garbage.
Honestly this statement of yours proves to me that you don't know what you're talking about.

All these tools break with updates, whether they are the browsers or addons/tools themselves.

I have no idea what you are talking about. anyone else?

[–] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

About the addons and stuff breaking, I constantly see posts about this adblock isn't working because Chrome broke something, this addon is no longer updated, google broke this so that addon doesn't work. That's the issue with using 3rd party tools, you have to rely on the tool AND browser to work together, and not break with updates or changes. You also have to trust both the browser AND the tool to keep your info safe and private.

Brave hasn't had even a hiccup in it's adblocking/privacy features with all the changes Chrome is implementing, due to how Brave is built. I just want a browser with strong, baked in privacy and adblocking that works out of the box. Brave is that solution at this time.

By the way, you seem focused on Firefox, I'm not attacking Firefox, I'm calling out every browser that needs addons to create a more secure and private browsing experience.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

About the addons and stuff breaking, I constantly see posts about this adblock isn't working because Chrome broke something, this addon is no longer updated, google broke this so that addon doesn't work.

well yeah, google has intentionally broken all effective content blockers. that's the fault of chrome. firefox is fine.

firefox will never be able to add built in support for adblocking. reasons include that websites would not just happily drop support for firefox, but some would even put in work to block it entirely! a 3rd party fork can do that, but the main thing can't because of what will follow.

By the way, you seem focused on Firefox, I'm not attacking Firefox,

I'm not focused on firefox, I'm against anything chrome. firefox is not good, its the least bad, but in my eyes there's a large difference between it and chromium. we need more engines.

I'm calling out every browser that needs addons to create a more secure and private browsing experience.

I think having this built in is a very dangerous move for a browser that wants to become popular, and does not want to be blocked by sites.

if all you want is to not need to install anything manually, librewolf has ublock preinstalled.

but I'm not confident about the content blocking abilities of brave. I get that it hides ads, but is that's all it does, or does it also block the resources from loading, tracking scripts from operating? because ublock origin is very effective with that, with its large toolset, if the blocklists utilize them

[–] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 1 points 7 minutes ago

Like I stated earlier, 3rd party testing places Brave at the top of almost any fingerprinting/ad blocking/tracking/privacy metrics tested. It might not be the product you like, that's fine, but you can't deny the testing that proves it works.

I don't hate on Firefox, far from it. I think it's great for those who don't mind extra layers of tinkering/having control on how the browser uses it's privacy functions. Firefox, unfortunately, isn't 100% web compatible, and almost every fox user has some form of Chromium as a backup. The discussion about web standards ignoring Chromiuim alternatives are valid, but I feel that's an entirely different discussion.