this post was submitted on 13 Jul 2025
178 points (89.7% liked)

Ask Lemmy

33301 readers
1699 users here now

A Fediverse community for open-ended, thought provoking questions


Rules: (interactive)


1) Be nice and; have funDoxxing, trolling, sealioning, racism, and toxicity are not welcomed in AskLemmy. Remember what your mother said: if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. In addition, the site-wide Lemmy.world terms of service also apply here. Please familiarize yourself with them


2) All posts must end with a '?'This is sort of like Jeopardy. Please phrase all post titles in the form of a proper question ending with ?


3) No spamPlease do not flood the community with nonsense. Actual suspected spammers will be banned on site. No astroturfing.


4) NSFW is okay, within reasonJust remember to tag posts with either a content warning or a [NSFW] tag. Overtly sexual posts are not allowed, please direct them to either !asklemmyafterdark@lemmy.world or !asklemmynsfw@lemmynsfw.com. NSFW comments should be restricted to posts tagged [NSFW].


5) This is not a support community.
It is not a place for 'how do I?', type questions. If you have any questions regarding the site itself or would like to report a community, please direct them to Lemmy.world Support or email info@lemmy.world. For other questions check our partnered communities list, or use the search function.


6) No US Politics.
Please don't post about current US Politics. If you need to do this, try !politicaldiscussion@lemmy.world or !askusa@discuss.online


Reminder: The terms of service apply here too.

Partnered Communities:

Tech Support

No Stupid Questions

You Should Know

Reddit

Jokes

Ask Ouija


Logo design credit goes to: tubbadu


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

I really never have believed times improved, and i am almost positive things will only get worse.

30 years ago we had a future to look to, the unshittified internet, great music, affordable land/housing, affordable durable cars, people actually interacted in real life, no social media trash. Now, we have billionaires and LLMs. I don't see how anyone can possibly think times are better or going to improve.

Yes, everyone will say "civil rights improved" and yes thats maybe the only thing that has changed, however it's getting taken away every day again so I don't think you can even use that point anymore.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] toddestan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Do you really remember the internet back then? Of course it wasn’t enshittified, there were only dozens of people online. And it really depends on what you mean with enshittified, the designs were horrible and polluted, sure it didn’t had ads, but realistically even a page with adds nowadays is more readable than most websites back then, with tiling images background, gifs everywhere and interesting font choices.

I’m sure that the vast majority of stuff you do online today wasn’t available in 95, so yeah, it might have become “enshittified” but it also became usable, and a shitty usable thing is better than a pure useless thing in my book.

Do you remember the internet back then? Sure, there were some truly terrible websites around back then, but most of the internet wasn't like what MySpace looked like a decade later.

Is it though? Most cars from the 90s are in dumpsters by now, they consumed so much gas that it simply wasn’t worth keeping them. And by the 90s cars had already started using electronics so they don’t even have the appeal that a purely mechanical car from the 60s brings to the table. Also again with the affordability probably wasn’t all that much better than now, where you can probably get a used car for very cheap.

As someone who was around back then, the quality of 90's cars were far better than the 70-80's cars that preceded them (in general). By the 1990's a lot of issues that plagued the early electronics in cars (late 70's-80's) had been sorted out, things like fuel injection became standard, the quality of paints improved drastically - 1990's cars didn't rust out nearly as bad as cars from previous decades. Of course most of these cars are gone now - the newest 1990's cars are over 25 years old at this point, but it's still not uncommon to see them driving around. Much more so than seeing cars from the 60's-70's driving around in the 1990's.

[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Most of the internet in the 90s was either that or the complete opposite, i.e. a bare text with links. Tell me since you said you actually remember the internet back then, what did you used to do in it? What websites did you frequent?

As for the cars I never said they were worse than before, my point with the purely mechanical cars from the 60s or before is that people still keep them because they're fully mechanic, but that cars from the 90s don't have that appeal. Everything that made the cars from the 90s better than the ones from the 80s was improved upon since then, realistically today's cars are much better in any metric you want to compare.

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Personally, I do the same things on the internet now that I did in the 90's. That's one thing that hasn't really changed.

[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Care to give more concrete examples of what you do on the internet now? You're on Lemmy, which didn't exist back then, neither did reddit. Other than that I don't know what you do on the internet, but what I do is certainly different, even if we were to consider that Lemmy is not so different from the various forums that existed then, and do the same with Whatsapp and IRC, just yesterday I used: YouTube, Spotify, Banks, Maps, Ordering food, Netflix, and Video calls none of which was available in the 90s.

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 1 points 10 hours ago

I browse websites related to my interests more than anything else. I don't think the specific websites are important. Lemmy not existing as a brand name doesn't mean anything. I had the same experience on dozens of other websites. In terms of experiences/activities, everything on this list was around by the mid 90s except for ordering food, but I didn't spend much time doing those things.