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What's really heartbreaking is that when these veterans, who took bullets for us, get told by our country that they need to leave, they just say "Yup, I guess I gotta leave", and don't make a huge deal about it. Donald Trump whines, in an extremely public matter, whenever he doesn't get his way, and these people just continue to do what their country asks them to, even when the country tells them to leave.
Life just isn't fair.
We have to shout for him, there's nothing he can do. You know, "First they came for..." and all that.
We can't.
The people who need to hear it are in another bubble and never will.
TBH I dunno how to fix it anymore. Even 'revolution' like many on Lemmy fantasize about will not penetrate, and most people don't want to understand what propaganda and algos are doing to them.
Protest has been working. Slowly, but it's working. Trump's approval rating is in the dumpster and I see no way for him to pull it out. His base is dumping him. I'm not sure of what's next, but take the small wins when we can.
53% unfavorable is not 'in the dumpster,' unfortunately:
https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/econTabReport_haeOEK5.pdf
https://www.economist.com/interactive/trump-approval-tracker
It's better than his first term, and we re-elected him... If COVID couldn't penetrate the bubble, I honestly don't know what will.
Here are many polls that show him under water. The red means more people dislike him than like him.
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Edit for source: https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls
Yeah and disapprove +11 (aka 54%) is the lowest poll (which I see more as +8 considering the 3% 'undecided' block). It's not even close to congressional or direction disapproval polls, and it's still around where he was last time as president.
I don't mean to sound combative, but a slight plurality of disapproval is not gonna cut the mustard.
It doesn’t matter. He’s not going to give up power because a bunch of people don’t like him. He doesn’t fucking care.
What’s next is they make him dictator for life, so he doesn’t have to pretend to care about his base anymore.
Yeah, I just don't know how we come back from this. It's not like the sane among us are suddenly going to decide to go along with fascism, nor is that 30+% that somehow control the narrative going to stop being the literal worst all of a sudden (see: post-Reconstruction).
So we… Balkanize? Hold US Nuremberg trials and actually do something about the priblem, assuming we can get to that point?
If that's your definition of sane I think you are in for a surprise about how low the number of sane people is. Just like common sense isn't actually that common.
Oh you underestimate people's self interest. If Big Tech continues on it's trajectory to a kind of Theil-ish cyberpunk dystopia, most people are going to go along. Like, even I have super techy naturalized family that keeps using Google or Facebook stuff. It's (seemingly) too essential.
No offense to Americans, I understand some of you are great people, but I wouldn't need much of a reason to leave America at this point. If not for my safety, then for my sanity. If not for my sanity, then for eggs.
Reason, sure. Ability? That's something else. Most of us don't have enough money to make the journey. I don't know of many places that would even accept us as immigrants without a substantial monetary value/donation or work skill, plus the language skills we don't have because schools don't teach foreign languages well or at all.
Who would even have us all?
I assume they don't charge you to get deported so there's a free ticket there and I'm no geographist but there's a couple countries that also use english as their official language
They're deporting us to concentration camps, not countries. They absolutely aren't determining where you should go. Alligator Auschwitz, CECOT, the one they're building in Guantanamo... It's not a free ticket to another country and freedom. It's a long road to death.
Don't forget South Sudan.
What I'm hearing is that you get free food, no rent, and access to a closely knit community of people who have many experiences to share
Edit: you people don't appreciate camping and it really shows
This is flat out one of the stupidest things I’ve ever seen someone say on the Internet.
So stupid that it might not even be serious. I guess I need to explicitly state that people shouldn't strive to be deported?
Yeah, well... Got room for 60 million immigrants?
Like...in my apartment? Probably not but I've also never tried.
Are you willing?
I don't personally have an issue with it but my 60 million roommates will have to share 1 bathroom
WHO THE FUCK USED ALL THE HOT WATER, but every nano-second
Many of us want to, but it's just not that simple. Financial viability, jobs, relationships, all contribute to making it very difficult for a lot of people. There's also the fact that a lot of countries require you to have a certain level of higher education to even be considered. If you don't already have that, it's really hard to just go to school for 4 years to escape what's happening right now. If it were as simple as moving between states, I'm sure you'd see a lot more Americans leaving. But as it stands, a lot of us feel trapped here.
Convince your loved ones to sell all of their material belongings, announce as a group that you are a band of undocumented Romanian gypsies, get deported, arrive in Romania, hoof it to the Ukraine border and claim to be Ukrainian refugees, be accepted into the UK,
Open the first Michelin recognized hotdog and burger food cart, sell your life rights to netflix, go back to the US with all your new money, shit in a paper bag, set it on fire, leave it on the doorsteps of people that have wronged you, go back to the UK, find out that the nearby shawarma shop has stolen your clientele, get depressed, get in a physical argument with the shawarma guys, get deported back to Ukraine,
Channel your anger into fighting the Russians, become known as the Ukrainian ghost sniper with 420 confirmed kills, die a hero, your grandchildren try to sell your war memorabilia on the dark web for vape money, uncover your hidden past as an American, they shit in a paper bag, light it on fire, then leave it on the front porch
This has been my plan since 2022. But sadly, I'm still in the "convince loved ones to sell all of their material belongings" stage.
The way I see it, they can say yes or no. Which is basically 50/50 so you have a 50% chance of passing this stage.
The rest of it is easy work as long as you're all young, fit, combat trained, able to fake at least 3 european accents, have solid bowel movements, have international underworld connections, a bit of business sense, and a small fortune in a swiss bank
You could always switch to plastic bags instead of paper if your stool ain't stooling but plastic is bad for the environment.
I don't know how you're going to kill 420 Russians with your guitar though.
If I could easily emigrate to a country that didn't suck, I would.