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[–] 418_im_a_teapot@sh.itjust.works 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Is it a level playing field? In China workers rights are pretty non-existent and there’s no OSHA equivalent, at least not to the degree we have in the US. Then add in government subsidies, lower worker pay, reduced R&D costs because they pilfered the engineering from a US company, and you end up with a very lopsided market.

To be clear, I am in no way defending the US auto industry. They have little customer loyalty for a reason – low quality, overpriced, subscription dependent vehicles with terrible warranties, expensive service requirements, and invasive telemetry. They need more competition to force them to make more consumer-friendly decisions, but China is hardly a fair competitor.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

In China workers rights are pretty non-existent and there’s no OSHA equivalent, at least not to the degree we have in the US

How much maternity leave d'you get in the US? Cause in China it's a minimum of 90 days up to 180. And an extra 15~30 days of pat leave. Mandatory paid holiday? US: 0 China: 11. Sick leave? US: 0 China: months (at reduced rate). Vacation? US: 0, China: 1 to 3 weeks.

An employer that fails to allow an employee to take annual leave must pay that employee 300% of the employee’s daily wages for each unused vacation day

The work sfatey certainly remains an issue, like any developing country, but things are rapidly improving.

Efforts at work safety shall be oriented around people and reflect the principle of people first and life first, with top priority given to people's life safety. The philosophy of safe development shall be adhered to and the principles of safety first, prevention as the main target as well as comprehensive administration shall be followed to forestall and resolve major safety risks at the source.

http://en.npc.gov.cn.cdurl.cn/2021-06/10/c_786248.htm

Things aren't all roses in China, but y'all have to get off of your high horse when you know fuck all other than bland ass propaganda.