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[–] einkorn@feddit.org 35 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I'd argue it is.

Just look how Amazon got where it is now: Sell way under market price, till local competition closed shop, then squeeze.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's unsustainable to keep prices lower than costs. The Amazon example didn't have low prices forever.

[–] einkorn@feddit.org 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, I know. That's why BYD is going to then squeeze the customers once they are locked in.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Thus, not sustainable, as I said.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

It worked for Wal-Mart

Which isn't really a sustainable business model, but it's quite successful

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 22 hours ago

It didn't work for Walmart the same way it didn't work for Amazon

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

What is sustainable in today's economy?

Really, what Western corporation actually base their policies on sustainable growth?

Take your time. I'll wait.

...

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

All of them that I know of. Which corporations do you see running unsustainable business models until they fold completely? Take your time, I'll wait.

The point is that they eventually change their tactics. In this case, they'll have to eventually increase their prices.

[–] msage@programming.dev 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Even big companies ran gigantic losses for years, just to undercut the competition and emerge as the only winner.

Some do it because they have other cash cows Epic store milking Fortnite), others have VC funding, like Uber.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Yes but after they win they have to raise prices...

[–] msage@programming.dev 1 points 32 minutes ago

Yes, and so may BYD. I have no idea what are you arguing for.

[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think your muddying sustainable and successful. It definitely can be successful, but its not sustainable.

Its also high risk, especially if you can't crank up the prices enough later

[–] einkorn@feddit.org 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sustainable implies that they can keep doing it forever without changing. Switching later means what they are doing is not sustainable. It might be successful, but its not sustainable.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

There's sustainable practices and sustainable businesses. The latter is what others are arguing. Undercutting competition to take over a market is a sustainable practice IF you can hold out long enough. I'd wager the country of China can hold out longer than General Motors.

[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 2 points 20 hours ago

But the business model has to change in order to survive. The company cannot undercut forever, it actually needs to change in order to survive. The business model of today is not sustainable. They may have a large warchest, they may be able to crush GM, but once they do, or the warchest runs out, the business model must change.

If you want to make the argument that their overall plan with the later change is sustainable, thats fine, but this current phase is not sustainable.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You forgot the part where they raised prices on everything.

[–] Gigasser@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

It might just be that, since BYD is serving such a large domestic market/population, that allows them to have cheaper cars? Something something, economies of scale. I'm no expert though.