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[–] secretlyaddictedtolinux2@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

In possible defense of this woman...

So initially, she's a woman brought on for a top leadership position to a problematic company. This is her chance to make some money and turn things around... And woman having top roles in business is a great thing. 100 years ago, that simply did not happen. Although there's still a fight for gay rights, trans rights, and the right of marginalized people, and there's still people being genocided and with no human rights, and people being tortured, that doesn't mean the struggle for woman's rights is over and that there's not some value to women taking top positions at large corporations.

And she made some progress on making that company less unappealing to advertisers, and did some good things...

AND THEN came the Elon Musk Hitler salute. And she probably had invested a lot of time and energy into the role, was being paid well, and was frustrated. Is she, as a woman in business, required to walk away from her efforts just because Elon Musk is a PR disaster and prejudiced person?

And then THIS finally happened. Her whole thing was just to be a businesswoman, be professional, and help make things profitable for this business unit, and this new AI change (which she almost certainly had nothing to do with and completely sucker punched her out of nowhere) completely undermined her.

So she did the smart thing and walked away. It was too much, it was undercutting her effort, she's moving on. Her last tweet was also very professional and corporate. She's a businesswoman.

Should she have left sooner? Should she have taken a stand against transphobia and some of the awful things on Xitter earlier? Yes, but also she had a boss, she had worked hard to get to where she was, and perhaps she wanted to make more money before exiting.

Does anyone know if she personally has done anything that indicates bigotry or prejudice towards trans people or Jewish people or anyone being genocided or tortured? I think her situation is somewhat understandable.

Even if we want to work toward a more egalitarian world in which all people have rights and are respected, woman will still be in organizations, most likely (if global warming doesn't kill us all), and so shouldn't woman be able to succeed?

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

She knew exactly what she was going to be defending. She used all the code words and dog whistles from the start.

Her presence on a project will raise my eyebrows.

So I'm assuming she will head to Mozilla or Ubuntu.

[–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 21 points 1 day ago

She used all the code words and dog whistles from the start.

Yep, Elon picked her for a reason.

[–] napkin2020@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, but also she had a boss, she had worked hard to get to where she was, and perhaps she wanted to make more money before exiting.

And that is somehow an excuse? Being a business women trying to succeed does not give her a pass for anything.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Honestly the above comment infuriated me.

They would not be defending this person if they were a man.

Having lower expectations of women isn't progressive, it isn't feminist. It's infantising. It's misogyny of lower expectations. "Oh you can't expect women to understand the difference between right and wrong."

A woman who is happy to support Elon is every bit as bad as a man that is happy to support Elon. Supporting a nazi is supporting a nazi.

[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You talk too much like a bot.

[–] reliv3@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I get that we need to be wary of AI slop, I really do; but If speaking academic English with decent grammar becomes associated with talking "like a bot", then we are cooked.

I'm not sure what's going on here, but I think it's time to set the record straight—my writing style is uniquely mine, and I'd like to defend myself against this notion that I write like a bot—after all, being different isn't something to be ashamed of.

To be honest, my sentences may not always flow as smoothly or effortlessly as some people might expect—but that doesn't mean they're lacking in substance—I'm making sure each word counts. My words are carefully chosen, each one intended to convey a specific idea or emotion—whether it's through humor, empathy, or simply making a point.

I'm not trying to be overly formal or pretentious; I just have my own way of expressing myself—and that's what makes me who I am as a writer—I won't change for anyone. So, no need to worry about writing like a bot—I'll keep on writing in my own voice, thank you very much!

[–] absentbird@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] secretlyaddictedtolinux2@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know who that is. Who is that?

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fuck her and her nazi supporting self. She can burn in he'll for staying after the nazi salute.

you're probably right. there's probably no justification for staying given how heinous it is.

[–] GingerGoodness@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Does anyone know if she personally has done anything that indicates bigotry or prejudice towards trans people or Jewish people or anyone being genocided or tortured?

Getting into bed with the world's most famous bigot doesn't exactly bode well with regard to her moral character.

She's not a smol bean, she's a grown adult who made her own choices. As a businesswoman she should've spotted the glass cliff from a mile away, instead she gave in to greed and willingly walked over the edge because she thought she was the exception. Painting her as a modern-day suffragette seems a bit tone deaf.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 1 day ago

I don't care what gender she is. Anyone who accepted that role after Elon took over was just going to be enabling him they should have let twitter fail entirely so everyone can move on to the next thing. Or preferably get off the internet and go outside.

I think it's more likely Musk got a lot more involved across the board after his stint w/ DOGE ended, and she wasn't a fan of that. She joined on the premise that she'd have a lot of autonomy, so that being taken away would make the most sense for her reason to leave.