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I don't think we should give up on reasonable direct action but going after what people eat when there is the elephant in the room like flying and toursim generally along with crusies... It is kinda insulting to the poors IMHO
You do you. For my part, honestly, even going over board on recycling is off the table. I'll separate bottles and stuff, but spending excessive time doing stuff like collecting grease to put in compost bins feels pointless and meaningless -- why would I put myself out, spend a buncha time doing that kinda stuff, while rich people are buying up Venice to have a Private Jet orgy, and a ton of media hypes it up as though it's awesome / they have no fall out from it? I have more respect for my own mental health than to internalise the guilt of it all, when every rich person out there is happily burning everything to the ground, and the majority of the poors are cheering them on for doing it.
Like I said in another post, even "Climate leaders" like David Suzuki owns like 4-5 houses, and jets between them for shits and giggles. It's all a joke, you may as well not punish yourself over it if you can't be fucked to do some of the small shit.
if you think the problem is capitalism and rich people why not put your efforts towards that instead of recycling? Instead, you just want an excuse to do nothing.
Plenty of not poor people eat too much meat
They also fly and vacation a lot more too lol
I honestly don’t know what your message is. Rich people shouldn’t fly but they can eat meat? Neither? Poor people should eat meat but not fly? Both? Neither? Middle class people?
Flying is bigger issue than eating red meat long with tourism generally.
While reducing red meat is good... Targeting beef as solution is disingenuous at best. Likely a shill op
Generally people who shill it are also the worst offenders about flying and tourism.
You can eat all vegan all your life but once you fly or go on the cruise... It doesn't matter.
I didn’t realize flying was destroying ocean ecosystems by overfishing and deforesting the Amazon.
All of this can be bad. All of it can be called out. You don’t have to cancel one with the other. You don’t have to call people who point at the meat problem “shills.”
If someone is beating the shit out of you and someone else is pissing on your face, assuming you're not into it, would you say it's not worth stopping the guy beating on you because you'll still be pissed on?