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(As a general concept of how a society should run, not intended as a US-specific question.)

I sometimes see people on the internet saying that giving people easy access to guns is too risky and there should be stricter gun control, while simultaneously wanting to abolish the police? I'm just confused on what people really want?

You cant both abolish the police and then also disarm the citizens, gotta pick one. So which is it, internet? Self-policing with guns? Or reform the police?

[Please state what country you're in]

::: spoiler


(Also its funny how the far-right of the US is both pro-gun and pro-police, I'm confused by that as well) :::

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

In some European countries, most police are unarmed. It seems to work okay. Here in Canada, they all carry guns, but it's serious paperwork if they ever have to unholster it.

[–] breecher@sh.itjust.works 4 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Those "some European countries" would be UK and Ireland for historical reasons. It is not really a widespread thing anywhere else.

[–] lucg@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

Dutch police aren't always I think (but often yes), and I seem to remember that Icelandic police almost never does. I don't know for most countries but afaik it's not as uncommon as that for them not to wear guns

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 5 hours ago

Hmm, what are the historical reasons?

I wasn't actually sure what the breakdown is across the continent, so I left it vague. I'm guessing French police are always armed.