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(As a general concept of how a society should run, not intended as a US-specific question.)

I sometimes see people on the internet saying that giving people easy access to guns is too risky and there should be stricter gun control, while simultaneously wanting to abolish the police? I'm just confused on what people really want?

You cant both abolish the police and then also disarm the citizens, gotta pick one. So which is it, internet? Self-policing with guns? Or reform the police?

[Please state what country you're in]

::: spoiler


(Also its funny how the far-right of the US is both pro-gun and pro-police, I'm confused by that as well) :::

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[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 8 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes it will. The idea thaat criminals will mass produce homemade firearms is nonsense. Even the cartels don't do this at any scale.

I'm Toronto it's like 13% of guns that are domestic, the other 87% are smuggled in from the unregulated shithole that is America, 0% are homemade.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Guns can now be 3d printed as we can see Luigi Mangione allegedly printed that gun

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Yeah, but they're not because no one wants to fire something that might blow up in their hand, and it's not actually that easy to mass manufacture illegal guns, even with 3d printers and CNC machines.

Like I said, we all know you can make a homemade gun with online information. That has been the case for literally the last 2 decades. And yet, underground homemade gun manufacturing is virtually non existent, because guess what, it's not that easy to do at scale in a way that won't get you immediately caught and all your equipment and supplies impounded.

Literally every developers western country that bans guns has not seen any noticeable rise in homemade guns being used at any regular pace. In what world do you think Norwegian clubs are being shot up with homemade uzis?