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Apparently Debian has alienated the developers (www.youtube.com)
submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by MITM0@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world
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We have this "meritocratic" right wing christian "centrist" relishing in the fact that Debian has gone political & is now struggling because the devs don't want to work for them.

I was wondering if some of nice people could share your opinions on it, especially on his solutions.

MY OPINION:

"Getting political" in these ways is both useful & a good idea. NO ONE & NO organizational body is neutral. Even just in internal day to day interactions, taking clear political policy like this is one step in preventing an environment from degenerating into one that is toxic & bigoted. This doesn't even have to be a right vs left issue. No one in their right minds should want to be racist or homophobic or allow an environment that promotes such a culture.

Also, being an open-source supporter & any level of rightwing is self-contradicting. Private property is the cornerstone of capitalist ideology & free software fundamentally twists information property against itself, turning the freed software into a commons. Left wing is far more meritocratic than right wing.

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[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

He wouldn't have any problem whatsoever if Debian was publicly endorsing right wing views and losing leftist contributors.

Linux and the GPL FOSS movement is inherently leftist, snd right wingers have been wailing about leftist views in various FOSS projects for over a decade. I recall many threads on reddit accusing Linus of having been made 'woke' by his daughter when the CoC was introduced, back during the gamergate era.

It's all the same shit, all the same complaints, and all a waste of time. As the US descends into extreme fascism to the cries of approval of the MAGA cult, it becomes harder and harder to stomach them in a project.

The more concerning thing going on is Debian potentially embracing AI, which I am very much not a fan of.

[–] SincerityIsCool@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The more concerning thing going on is Debian potentially embracing AI, which I am very much not a fan of.

Can you elaborate on this, or point me to where I can read about it? Getting away from AI was a part of the reason I ditched Windows :/

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

You can read more about it here: https://www.phoronix.com/news/Debian-More-Newcomers-LLMs

They also seem to have voted on this subject back in may, but I don't know how to find the results: https://www.debian.org/vote/2025/vote_002#secondsa

[–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

He shows the article, from phoronix, in the video above, and talks about it