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Yes, it's gonna get bad. Jobs in both the private sector, and public sector, universities, etc, we are all feeling the heat right now.
Why are universities suffering?
Because enrollment is in structural decline due to demographic shift.
Bad reputation among working people due to cost and dubious results for about half of graduates.
Student loans reform is gonna hurt them the most though.
Yep degrees aren't worth what they used to be. I regret mine really not worth it
biotech is pretty bad back 2016-present, i can imagine it worst for other stem degrees, Tech was flourishing around that time before covid. our school strangely hid "lab experience, under an obscure category so people wouldnt notice, and try to badger the PIs for seats in thier labs, apparent it was the most important part of your DEGREE before graduation.
and employers in the industry dont want to train a person at all, so they expect years of experience under your belt already.
i think cs majors have one of the highest unemployment amongst stem. biology/bio seems halfway, but i suspect its heavily skewed because people go into nurisng or another healthcare field.
I’m assuming international students are staying far away from American universities at the current enrollment periods as well
it was bad before trumps win, for state unis in cali.
To some degree sure but Foreign Nepo babies going to haaavard and other elites schools ain't changing.
At best state and mid grade private schools targeting the foreign "Middle" class will take a hit as these people go to other Anglo countries
As with everything, there is a club
our CC and state uni had alot of ME students, who often come from wealth, plus alot of soccer/football students tend to be from other countries too.
my former state uni was suffering enrollment so bad that they reached out to HS students(not yet graduated) to give them a guaranteed enrollment if they do these kinds of requirements, when it was the usual : sat scores, 3.0etc.
before that happened they wre slashing classes, instructors(non tenured) raising tuition to cover the loss of thier cash cow, freshmans. the reason is combination of lack career help, and job prospect out of earning said degree.
NSF funding cuts, declining enrollment bcz of the ICE crap (people are afraid to come to the U.S.), covid funding issues still being felt, lots of government employees vying for university positions, attacks on science across the board forcing experts to leave the U.S., or go to the private sector. Its bad, and it'll probably get worse.
i like to add college enrollment was down right around election year , it was bad before he wa s elected and instituted cuts, i imagine its going to get worst.
Somebody drinking too much koolaid
Ya am I? Guess all that first hand experience with it must be a lie..
Clearly this first hand experience clouding your judgement about what universities has been doing for the last 20 years...
The attack on science schtik does not resonate with people balls deep on student loans. But I do understand how proffesors and admin staff would shill it lol
Please, enlighten me on how 50% funding cuts to NASA science budget, and cutting NSF grant funding isn't an attack on science? I'd also like you to further explain to me with your clearly superior big brain how banning all things considered DEI or climate change related, isn't an attack on science..
Clearly, you know more about all the interworkings of this stuff than someone who is involved in this shit.
We are literally in the middle of one of the largest wealth transfers in history right now, driven by dipstick billionaires who are frothing and foaming at the mouth at the prospect of screwing this nation out of all scientific progress we've made, and you wanna tell me im a fucking sucker.
GTFO with your weak sauce arguments.
The wealth transfer started in 1980s...
Universities were happy to fleece the students for decades... By jacking up tuition, over hiring parasitic admins and charging wildly fees for everything they could.
Now the universities have no good will left among the peasants.
Sure sucks NASA got defunded, gutted and transferred out to private sector.
But in the country where health insurance exists int he current form... Kinda hard to give a fuck about "the science"
People got to eat first ;)
Yeah, and? This was a conversation about the science. If you want to have a different conversation about how we dont have proper social safety nets, be my guest, and start a different thread elsewhere. You're just changing the argument bcz you know you're wrong.
This is the prompt I responded to
You responded to me and told me im drinking too much Kool aid...go be a jackass somewhere else. Jesus, blocked.
you are posting misinformation thats why. what you said in the original comment, is totally false. cuts not a big deal? what are you currently smoking. also telling other people to "lets talk about something else"
Your response to that prompt was straight up uni propaganda and was down playing the true reasons why Uni's are under pressure.
You cant seem to handle a disagreement lol
I heard universities have been closing entire staff departments because of the DEI cuts. Business schools all over the country do DEI research with government grants. That money is gone now.
research grants, and funding grants are being cut. so scientists are fleeing the states, some of them. this only works if you have phd or MD in a specialty that europe wants.
What kind of specialities do they want?
probably research scientists , and specalized MD specialties. probably depends on the universities or employers though. im just pulling ideas out of the air, could be biomedical, biopharmaceutical types, something that use "useful to the economy"