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Elon Musk has said an Axios report that the Department of Justice and Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) had concluded there was no evidence of a Jeffrey Epstein client list was the "final straw".

The report also said the agencies had concluded there was no credible evidence the disgraced financier and pedophile blackmailed high-profile and prominent individuals, and confirmed that surveillance footage showed Epstein had killed himself in prison.

"So... umm... then what is Ghislaine Maxwell in prison for?" Musk posted to his X platform, referring to Epstein's former girlfriend and associate who procured underage girls for him to abuse.

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[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 85 points 1 day ago (5 children)

No one ever asks why Epstein was allowed to kill himself. Who gave the order to take him off suicide watch? I remember people at the time screaming that it was a bad idea.

[–] evenglow@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Why didn't he suicide himself the first time he was in jail?

[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

I didn't hear too much about the first time. I don't remember it. I know he was on suicide watch. Then he suddenly wasn't with every medical professional saying he needed to stay on suicide watch. Was he on suicide watch the first time?

[–] thallamabond@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] evenglow@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He continued his lifestyle while he was still in jail.

He only had to spend nights at the jail and he still had women visit him constantly. No one knew what they were doing because the guards were not allowed to guard him.

Epstein was also allowed out of the stockade for up to 12 hours a day, six days a week on work-release after agreeing to pay off-duty deputies to guard him at his office at 250 Australian Ave. On workdays, Epstein’s driver picked him up at the stockade and drove him several miles to his office — just steps away from Goldberger’s office — at a nonprofit he founded seven months before he pleaded guilty.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

To be clear, that was in 2008 when he was serving time in Florida. The situation in 2019 in NYC was very different.

[–] evenglow@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Yes. He has been in jail more than once.

To be clear, again, why didn't he suicide himself the first time he was in jail?

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 15 minutes ago

Why didn't he commit suicide the first time he was in jail? Didn't you just explain that? He got a free day pass, and when he was in jail he was allowed to leave his cell to go to a nearby one to watch TV. His future looked bright. It just seemed like he had a little annoyance to put up with for a while and then he was going to go back to living it up.

The second time it was pretty clear that his lifestyle was over. They were throwing the book at him, and he was likely going to spend the rest of his life in prison. That's what I imagine was going through his head.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I suspect because they didn't have all his video files. Couldn't kill him if those files could get leaked after his death.

[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think the onus ultimately falls upon the head of the DOJ at the time (Barr, if I recall correctly), who was appointed by trump, and at the time loyal to him.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 14 points 23 hours ago

And whose father had previously employed Epstein as a teacher.

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 18 hours ago

That would be Bill Barr. Look into it yourself but Bill probably had Epstein killed, he's the guy who knows what happened.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

This is the conspiracy. Nobody went in and killed him. They absolutely gave him time and the means to do so.

[–] mhague@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Nobody ever asks "are suicides not common?" Nobody ever asks "are US prisons run correctly?"

We average like 50 suicides a year in federal prisons. Despite being under watch, suicides are greater in prison populations than in the general population.

US prisons are not run correctly. People are not taken care of, or kept from hurting themselves and others, and there's negligence and abuse and more.

Why is Epstein killing himself in federal prison weird? That's literally a trait of conspiracy nuts: they never allow small things to be responsible for big outcomes.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Yes, but, he was also attacked in prison by someone trying to kill him shortly before this, if I remember correctly.