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[โ€“] masterspace@lemmy.ca 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

The electricity and silicon required to make this happen are not free, on a societal or physical level. There is a tangible cost to this transfer, even if you're ignoring the social construct of copyright.

Completely irrelevant.

If I already have a computer and an internet connection then I've already paid the costs, prior to initiating that particular request.

I think this issue comes from a misunderstanding of "free", possibly conflating it for "trivially easy".

In the context of pricing resources, those are the same thing.

Feel free to come up with such a system. I think you'll find that a rather difficult task.

The model is the same one used by streaming services. It's one of reward and attribution rather artificial scarcity. Rather than having streaming and advertising middlemen you have a public system that lets everyone access what they want and rewards creators based on usages. Youtube without Google's exorbitant profits.

Copyright has no basis in human culture or history. Our literal entire history is based on a tradition of free remixing and story telling, not copyright.

[โ€“] Chozo@fedia.io 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Copyright has no basis in human culture or history.

It's exited before any of us currently alive, so that's a pretty absurd notion. Unless human culture and history ended ~300 years ago?

[โ€“] masterspace@lemmy.ca 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

K, versus 2,750,000 years.

Here's 300 letter g's:

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Here's 2.75 million letter h's

Oh wait, I can't paste that many because at 40 chars per line, it would be 68,000 lines long, or 1000x the Android clipboard's char limit.

You are literally describing a meaningless iota in the course of human history.

[โ€“] Chozo@fedia.io 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I don't get your argument. So because it's "new" according to your grand cosmic scale, it doesn't exist at all?

You can say "I think intellectual property is a dumb idea" and I'd love to hear your arguments for that, but to act like it isn't real just because we came up with the idea relatively recently, is just asinine.

[โ€“] masterspace@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

,You can say "I think intellectual property is a dumb idea" and I'd love to hear your arguments for that,

Read the above comments then.

but to act like it isn't real just because we came up with the idea relatively recently, is just asinine.

Again, read my comments. I didn't say it wasn't real, I said it has no basis in human culture or history.

[โ€“] Chozo@fedia.io 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I said it has no basis in human culture or history.

Not only is this incorrect, it would be meaningless even if it was accurate. What point are you even trying to make with this claim?

[โ€“] masterspace@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

It is 100% correct. There was no concept of owning a story or a song just because you told it first, throughout literally all of history until the copyright laws of the 20th century.

And my point is that the literal entirety of human culture is based on a tradition of storytelling, something copyright expressly forbids.

Copyright is not a system that aligns with our natural inclinations or the way we evolved. It's a crude, child like attempt to cram information into a capitalist mold that doesn't work.

[โ€“] Chozo@fedia.io 1 points 1 hour ago

There was no concept of owning a story or a song just because you told it first, throughout literally all of history until the copyright laws of the 20th century.

Brother, copyright has been around since at least the 1700s, you're literally just making things up right now. Read a book.