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What failed was local officials not succeeding in alerting people — in large part because they had plan or mechanism available to do so with the roughly one-hour warning that current meteorology can provide for specific flash floods like this.

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[–] fittedsyllabi@lemmy.world 12 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

So the 20 girls that are missing, they’re just going to leave it at that, eh?

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 25 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (3 children)

No, but its better to understand what happened instead of some fiction being pushed by local officials.

When you do frequent midnight alerts for missing elderly, people disable the alerts on their phone entirely. Then when disaster hits, they don't know its coming. And because no planning was done for it, they can't evacuate a camp full of kids quickly enough even if they know what's about to happen.

Actually preventing this kind of thing means maintaining preparedness for decades when nothing happens.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (3 children)

When you do frequent midnight alerts for missing elderly, people disable the alerts on their phone entirely.

I’m reminded of the time cops woke up the entire state of Texas at 5AM, to say a dude named Sam Altman shot at a cop near Amarillo. They issued a Blue Alert for the entire state. For reference, many Texans were more than an 8 hour drive away from where it happened. Yeah, shit like that gets emergency notifications muted.

[–] JustAnotherPodunk@lemmy.world 16 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I vented on a local Facebook group when that happened. Saying that the continued police abuse of the emergency alert system would quickly cause the alerts to mean nothing. I frequently also got amber alerts for the opposite end of the state, well over twelve hours away.

To say that my concern was an unpopular opinion would be a massive understatement. People were downright hostile. A lot of locals could never fathom that what I was saying was true. And they used all the four letter words to tell me so. A sheriff's deputy called me a godless cop hater and a disgusting person.

Fortunately that particular cop is unemployed for abusing his power and some domestic abuse allegations. Oh and trying to fight his neighbor while in uniform.

And and I'm still right. They abused the alert system so much it is useless. And children and the elderly and innocent paid that price with their lives.

[–] MrTolkinghoen@lemmy.zip 9 points 14 hours ago

Yes, 100% you're right.

I don't think "godless cop hater" was the insult he thought it was.

[–] grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Last year we had heavy rain. Every time the flash flood advisory was extended, a new "wake the dead" alert went out. These alerts ignored my phone's audio settings and were very loud.

After around the 7th alarm between, iirc, 3 pm and 10 pm I disabled the alerts. I was too on edge by the idea of another alarm to fall asleep.

I'm not sure I turned those alarms back on.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 4 points 15 hours ago (2 children)
[–] grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 15 hours ago

Fine, they're back on. But I'm only allowing Extreme alerts. The flash flood updates were Severe alerts and I'm not dealing with that bullshit again.

[–] madlian@lemmy.cafe 4 points 13 hours ago

There’s a blue alert? Jfc. It’s pathetic that they think we care.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Do people really get these false alerts? I don’t recall ever getting one that wasn’t local

[–] madlian@lemmy.cafe 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I kept shutting it off because of all those fucking amber alerts. Don’t get kidnapped, shit. Grandma at least has dementia to blame.

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 hours ago

Missing kid in a silver Nissan Altima!

Yeah I see dozens of them every time I go out, if I'm actually looking and not focusing on navigatiting. But I also don't go out often enough for it to matter, even if it happened anywhere near me.

Besides, most of those events are just one of the divorced parents taking the kid without permission, or overrunning weekend visitation, and are resolved within a few hours.

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 9 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

27, and for now they're still just considered missing. It is possible they reached higher ground of some sort and just haven't been able to contact due to loss of electronics. In the other (unfortunately more likely) scenario their families would have to be informed before media reporting.

[–] aramova@infosec.pub 1 points 1 hour ago

I'm still waiting for the Dog Butcher of Dakota to claim the DHS now believes radical migrants that Biden let in took the girls from the flood waters and trafficked them to South America, so they're calling off the search and launching military action against Panama to retake the Canal and save the little girls.

Or some equally bat shit fuckwadery.