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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

They seem to be saying that:

1-The Ukrainian defense industry is going to get big and turn them into a miniature version of America with its military-industrial complex, which is really bad.

2-Ukraine's position is likely better than media portrays, since they have the capacity to pursue such opportunities while maintaining their war effort.

I certainly haven't seen these arguments made before, but they don't seem like disinformation.

[–] Brainsploosh@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It smells of disinformation as it presents several differing views and conclusions. Entirely in accordance with Russian disinformation tactics both domestic and international.

The tool is to bombard with enough contradictory truths that one has to choose a subset and reject the others, or give up in the face of the constant flood.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It smells of disinformation as it presents several differing views and conclusions.

Where's the contradiction? Ukraine is expanding its defense industry internationally -> their defense industry is strong -> they're doing well in the war + their military-industrial complex will get more powerful. Seems to be one consistent train of thought. The first paragraph is sarcasm.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

Yes, this is what I was intending, the only part you missed was my general reluctance to engage in the worship of warfighting as I saw what it did to my country.

Look at my post and comment history, everything I have said is consistent with it, I am welcome to someone debating on the merits of my arguments (which in no way are pro russian or pro russian imperialism) but I bristle at being called a Russian plant because it reveals an intellectual laziness that is uninterested in my points that are decidedly, unambigously pro-Ukraine.

I don't know what people's primary languages are here, maybe my words are being lost in translation?