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The Problem with the Fediverse

I have no issues with the way it is implemented, I have no issues with it at all. For context, I left Twitter to join the Fedi, and it has been great so far! I use Misskey for microblogging, PeerTube for uploading videos, and Lemmy for Reddit-style discussions. The Fediverse is amazing!

Except, idk, for the fact that it is too fragmented? I hope I am using the right words. Like, the current instance I am on does not have support for communities, so i have to do it the hard way and mention @fediverse@lemmy.world so that I can post here. It's a good workaround, considering it doesn't have built-in support for communities.
But my point still stands. It's not a Lemmy/PieFed problem. It's mostly a fediverse problem. Implementing communities for every platform would help the Fediverse. Not only does it solve discoverability/algorithm issues of the Fediverse (since now when you follow a community, you get all posts from that community), but also it would interconnect every platform (Misskey, PeerTube, Mastodon, etc.)

Imagine you don't have to use your Lemmy account to check everything on Lemmy. Instead of creating channels in PeerTube, just post to an existing channel/community, and people subscribed to that channel/community can find you easily. I see this as an absolute win for everyone.

I understand this would require collaboration between all developers of all software. But hopefully, this is possible?
Or am I asking for too much?

If I am wrong, then is there any way in which we can solve this issue?

#fediverse #problems #fediverseproblems

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[–] mkmusic@torishiro.com 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

@rglullis@communick.news
@fediverse@lemmy.world

I may not have conveyed my point clearly.

If it was merely a Misskey problem, i wouldnt have made this post, so ill list my likes and problems one by one, i may have been vague with communication:

My likes:

  1. Interconnected: i dont need to elaborate too much. One account, to all platforms...
  2. Opensource: also not much elaboration.
  3. Protocol centric, not platform centric...

My ONLY dislike:

  1. Lack of definite communication: Misskey may be my favourite, but it sucks the most when it comes to federating with other instances. There is no upvote system, no favourites system, no saved posts system. I can only reply and send reactions, and those reactions may not even federate properly. Same when i was using Mastodon. There was no downvote system, crosspost, etc. The worst in my opinion is the fact that devs are trying their best to federate with each other but throught different ways. My point is, this discrepancy between platforms calls for standardized system.

I hope i have explained well enough. I apologise if i wasnt clear with this earlier... any solutions to the aforementioned problem?

[–] rglullis@communick.news 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

There is no upvote system. no favourites system, no saved posts system.

There is no such thing as "upvote" on ActivityPub. This is an abstraction on top of the "Like" activity. If Misskey UI is geared only towards reactions and doesn't have a way for users to "like" something, this is a Misskey problem, not a Fediverse one.

My point is, this discrepancy between platforms calls for standardized system.

And what people are trying to explain to you is that this "standardized system" already exists. ActivityStreams is the standard to define a vocabulary, and ActivityPub is the standard that defines what happens when data is sent between different servers.

The issue I am taking with your comment is that it seems that you are expecting developers to backwards from an unified product vision and build their down to the standard. This only works well when you have one single entity controlling everything. It's the "Apple Way" of developing products.

[–] mkmusic@torishiro.com 1 points 14 hours ago

@rglullis@communick.news you are right. I am sorry if i may EXPECT certain things to just work, just recently shifted from Twitter (stopped using twitter in 2023, now on Misskey since 2025). To be honest, i was realy confused with what ActivityPub was in the first place.

But i am glad i joined the fediverse. Today I Learnt more about the fediverse. A chaotic but really fun universe of interconnected planets.

I realise that i am asking for everyone to adapt to my needs, and not that i adapt to the ecosystem.

But now i try to learn... thank you for this informational conversation. It's still amazes me how platforms scripted in different languages are able to connect with each other.

My post is invalidated. It's now retitled to " why we need to reform our way of thinking about social media."

Still, that wont stop me from making a PeerTube+Lemmy+Misskey platform... ​:ablobcatangel:​
@fediverse@lemmy.world